Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

[Beanflicker]

What did you expect Freddie to say?

Manny is his main meal ticket, do think that he would say that Oscar hits harder? Gimme a break.

Just because Manny is his meal ticket doesn't mean that he needs to throw any credibility he may have out the window.

Theres no way Manny comes even close to De La Hoya's power. I don't even think Manny is a huge puncher at LW. He had to batter David Diaz around for 9 rounds before he could stop him. At 135 Oscar would just spark guys with 1 punch, with either hand.

I think Freddie's brain has finally left the building.

[Pacdbest2]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

[Pacdbest2]

What did you expect Freddie to say?

Manny is his main meal ticket, do think that he would say that Oscar hits harder? Gimme a break.

Just because Manny is his meal ticket doesn't mean that he needs to throw any credibility he may have out the window.

Theres no way Manny comes even close to De La Hoya's power. I don't even think Manny is a huge puncher at LW. He had to batter David Diaz around for 9 rounds before he could stop him. At 135 Oscar would just spark guys with 1 punch, with either hand.

I think Freddie's brain has finally left the building.

Did you see DLH-Bredahl fight at 130 lbs?
DLH can't even knockout cold that bum. Bredahl evn hit DLH with some good shot. It's a corner stoppage so don't portray DLH as that murderous puncher. And that is the younger DLH.

Tell me who knockout cold Diaz? Only Pac.

[ono]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

So you don't think it's possible that Edwin Valero could hit harder than say.....Cory Spinks?

Not saying Pac hits harder than ODLH but there is a lot more than just 'weight' that determines your punch power.

Pac has quite a decent frame. I think you're going to be surprised with how well he handles the extra weight.

[Chino]

Freddie Roach: Of course! Manny fights like a true Mexican warrior. They’ve never liked Oscar and he’s never really had their support and nothing is going to change there.

HHhhhmmm so I guess every arena and even stadium that he keeps selling out is filled to capacity by Phillipinos? Nope. Like it or not, Mexicans still fill out arenas/stadiums wherever ODLH fights regardless of fighting a big name or not.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

And that is what makes this fight exciting I guess . The thing I somehow like about this fight is that, ok, lots and lots of people hate ODLH but seems like they want him to win convincingly just to quiet all those Pac groupies (not you, you seem to have your feet on the ground and far from being biased with Pac). Darn it! I have a company dinner that night! I will try to escape earlier or hope the place has a bar!

Pac learned how to deal with Jab after his lost to Morales.

Not so sure about that. Morales tried to "give the fans more excitement than the last fight" and went on to exchange with Pac, bad idea. He did fine on the first fight just jabbing away, one-two, etc. And just keeping Pac away and moving to the side whenever Pac did his typical charge attack.
What makes me think twice about this fight is how ODLH got hit by a guy that is not known to have KO fists (Forbes) and still had some noticeable damage to his face. ODLH wasn't really threatened by Forbes at any point of that fight but still, just one of those things that make me go hhhhmmmmm.

[ICB]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

I know all about speed generating power, but when has Manny Pacquiao showed 1 punch KO power at the higher weights ? he had to hit David Diaz about 1000 times before David Diaz's body finally give up.

When ODLH was at the lower weight classes he was KOing opponents. With one punch and he still hits hard, like i said if you think Manny Pacquiao hits harder than ODLH.

I suggest you either watch there fights again, or go to the nearest doctors because thats crazy talk.

As for your comment Ono yes not in all cases does a heavier man hit harder. But in most cases especially boxing they do, fighters like Cory Spinks, Paul Malignaggi are exceptions.

[C-Lo]

Pacquiao does not have one-punch power. He knocks opponents out by his relentlessness and his ability to wear his opponents out. Yes he does have power but it's his accumulation of blows that take people out.

Let's look at the knockout history:

Diaz TKO by 9 - he hit him at will and still took 9 rounds.

Solis KO by 8 - Solis only really took 2 rounds of punishment but was looking for a way out instead of really being hurt.

Morales KO by 3 - I believe Morales had big trouble making 130 which is why it only lasted 3.

Morales TKO by 10 - It took a RIDICULOUS amount of shots to be taken out. No one shot looked to hurt Morales but you saw each one take it's toll.

Velasquez TKO by 6 - Again, Velasquez wasn't taken out by one or a couple of big blows, it was by a huge round where Manny landed sick amounts of combinations.

Barrera TKO by 11 - Another case where Pacquiao landed a ridiculous amount of punches but took 11 to finish.

Ledwaba TKO by 6 - This is somewhat of an early knockout but if you've seen this fight you'd realize Pac landed hellacious shots for ALL of those rounds. He landed more punches in 6 than most in a full 12.

Even at lower weights from where he's at now, it took him more than just one-punch power to take people out...

(Battery and Lucero were one-punch knockouts and would'nt be proving my cause if i talked about them)

[leftylee]

I'm with ICB on this.

To say Pac hits harder tha ODLH is absurd. DLH has fought at middleweight. Pac started at flyweight.

[zhubin]

People are going to need get used to such hyperbole leading up to the fight. Freddy is doing his usual, horrible prefight trash talking. Anything to make this absurd fight seem more exciting than it really will be. Is Pac faster and better conditioned than Oscar...sure. Can he hit as hard as Oscar? If you are a logical and unbiased fan...you clearly know he can't. Does any of this really matter? It shouldn't...since both of these fighters should be fighting people their own size.

[XaduBoxer]

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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[Diane]

[C-Lo]

On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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I had this whole example of why this statement proves nothing written out and ready to click "reply" but then I realized that it wouldn't change anything. Some people just don't have logic...

[bond007]

I think Freddie is either punch drunk or on the pipe. I really hope for a good fight.

[XaduBoxer]

Oscar De La Hoya hits a bag during an open workout at his boxing training camp Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008, in Big Bear, Calif. De La Hoya is preparing for his fight against Manny Pacquiao on Dec. 6 in Las Vegas.


Some of the media people noticed a bluish discoloration (black eye?) under Hoya's right eye... This could be what triggered the "Ortiz mauling Hoya" rumour...





Hoya also looks already dried up...

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[C-Lo]

ESPN says De La Hoya is already weighing 145