Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
Pacfan and Andre are some great posters, two of my favorites who go out of their way to get along with others. BTW what the FFFFF is a Zen
Thanks mate nice of you to say so;
Zen is a type of Budisum I think ,like A Zen Buddist.

Im more into Taoism myself the quiet natural wisdom of the Chinese monk Lao Tszu. That is where the same wise expressions that those monks used to say to Grasshopper in the Kung Fu series all came from ,if you remember that show.

Toaism is being at peace with the way.
Tao means WAY. Toa te Ching =way of life ,way of universal being ,
Natures way etc.

I think Zen and Taoism have allot in common.

I also love sacred geometry and its keys and links back into to the universal plan of life,The mathmatics of dualism compared to that of the One. Love. This is the thing that glues together all ancient and esoteric wisdom including what the old astrologers from within the Egyptains ,Mayans,Tibetian Monks and the Jewish Kabbalistic priests of Ancient Lemura and Isreal all knew. It is what men like Vitruvius, Pythagoras,Leonardo Da vinci,to name but three of the best all came to realize ,that the flower of life holds all the keys to everything;which has all lead me from secretly hating God, into loving God instead of fearing one.
Which is where we all will find ourselves. Once we find the space and peace to move complete and freely as we were always supposed to always live then you can hear and see things in a new light.

Go Diz . He's on a path!

And a proven one too,Echart is .

Diz once you get it ,things will arise and take you right back to your old ways of anger. But just watch them and remain as seperate as you can by being the observer as soon as you can.Its not a failure to spit the dummy occasionally.We have that right to blow off steam.
This is just part of it. These tests will allow you realise that anger or hatred poured outwards onto others is more self destroying than the damage you think you're aiming at them.

It is habitual as well and your ego is the one that makes it so ,so that it can steal your time down here away from the real you.

Once you have the freedom of that space that you are feeling at the moment,continually; You will be like that empty cup you will be the doorway.

You will be filled with what is out there naturally and it will come, faster if you give thanks between you and it or if you ask for the next step to occur some thing will fall in lap as proof.

The ending of that expression you were talking about goes..

shape a vessel out of clay or cut windows or doors out of a wall ,it is the space within that makes them of use.
Therefore profit comes from what is there.
Usefulness comes from what is not there.

Same goes for life,business, boxing and now you.