The WBO is Garbage

[JonnyFolds]

I hate to do it, but I agree with Sweet pea . Oscar owns the Ring, yes, but at least they follow who beats who and linearize the champ. It makes a little more sense to me. Nobody's gonna come outta retirement from a loss ranked #1 on the Ring Mag Belt.

But yes, F the belts in the A. We know who the champ is.

[DaxxKahn]

The fighter makes the title....Not the other way around....

Thats why you will see most writers worth their salt refer to champions as belt holders now adays....

It has been a long time since the champion of a sanctioning body was actually the champion and not just a belt holder

[El Kabong]

Well I hate to see what Rafael says about the WBA especially at heavyweight...it's ridiculous

[Spicoli]

The WBO and Kronk seemed pretty close early on.The belts are such a mish mash now.It truely will cause migrans keeping track.Been said before,Fighters make themselves and give name to a belt,The belts are just along for the ride.

[XaduBoxer]

WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, ABC, XYZ all the same...

WBC asking Pacquiao to pay $100,000 sanctioning fee for PAC's fight with Hoya... is garbage (before this, WBC pres. Sulaiman labeled the PAC-Hoya fight a farce).

$100,000 for sanctioning fee alone? That's already 3 or 4 times the total purse of JMM when he lost to Chris John...
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[DaxxKahn]

WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, ABC, XYZ all the same...

WBC asking Pacquiao to pay $100,000 sanctioning fee for PAC's fight with Hoya... is garbage (before this, WBC pres. Sulaiman labeled the PAC-Hoya fight a farce).

$100,000 for sanctioning fee alone? That's already 3 or 4 times the total purse of JMM when he lost to Chris John...
.

Was those same sanctioning fees and their high prices that only allowed Baldomir to keep one belt he won off Judah,,,,He could not afford all of them...was more then his purse

[XaduBoxer]

WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, ABC, XYZ all the same...

WBC asking Pacquiao to pay $100,000 sanctioning fee for PAC's fight with Hoya... is garbage (before this, WBC pres. Sulaiman labeled the PAC-Hoya fight a farce).

$100,000 for sanctioning fee alone? That's already 3 or 4 times the total purse of JMM when he lost to Chris John...
.

Was those same sanctioning fees and their high prices that only allowed Baldomir to keep one belt he won off Judah,,,,He could not afford all of them...was more then his purse

Poor Baldomir... Poor Pacquiao... being harassed by these XYZ boxing orgs...
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[irons]

Wise words from Bob Arum, 'To dismiss the WBO as a joke means the others aren't' They're all next to useless, and are only there for what they can cream off the sport.

I've never forgiven Ring Magazine for the debacle that was the United States Boxing Championships back in 1977. I've never bought the Magazine because of that farce.

[GAME]

I hate to do it, but I agree with Sweet pea . Oscar owns the Ring, yes, but at least they follow who beats who and linearize the champ. It makes a little more sense to me. Nobody's gonna come outta retirement from a loss ranked #1 on the Ring Mag Belt.

But yes, F the belts in the A. We know who the champ is.

The problem I have with ring magazine is that they had Casa as ring champion conveniently when he was about to fight a golden boy fighter in Marquez. Casa got his ass handed to him by a bum like Santa Cruz yet they still said he was champ but Campbell who beat the next big thing . . the undfeated unified champion in Diaz , is not recognised as the best ?! Gimme a break

Also sus that Pacs apparently the p4p champ according to that mag so isnt it covenient that when Oscar beats him he can say he beat the p4p number 1 . If he wants to beat the best then fight Calzaghe whos unbeaten and has been beating big names.

[Lance Uppercut]

I hate to do it, but I agree with Sweet pea . Oscar owns the Ring, yes, but at least they follow who beats who and linearize the champ. It makes a little more sense to me. Nobody's gonna come outta retirement from a loss ranked #1 on the Ring Mag Belt.

But yes, F the belts in the A. We know who the champ is.

The problem I have with ring magazine is that they had Casa as ring champion conveniently when he was about to fight a golden boy fighter in Marquez. Casa got his ass handed to him by a bum like Santa Cruz yet they still said he was champ but Campbell who beat the next big thing . . the undfeated unified champion in Diaz , is not recognised as the best ?! Gimme a break

Conveniently? Your an idiot dude. Casa was the champ because he beat Diego: THE CHAMP. You get it. It is pretty simple. The person who beats the champion becomes the champion. That had nothing to do with ODLH.

[GAME]

I hate to do it, but I agree with Sweet pea . Oscar owns the Ring, yes, but at least they follow who beats who and linearize the champ. It makes a little more sense to me. Nobody's gonna come outta retirement from a loss ranked #1 on the Ring Mag Belt.

But yes, F the belts in the A. We know who the champ is.

The problem I have with ring magazine is that they had Casa as ring champion conveniently when he was about to fight a golden boy fighter in Marquez. Casa got his ass handed to him by a bum like Santa Cruz yet they still said he was champ but Campbell who beat the next big thing . . the undfeated unified champion in Diaz , is not recognised as the best ?! Gimme a break

Conveniently? Your an idiot dude. Casa was the champ because he beat Diego: THE CHAMP. You get it. It is pretty simple. The person who beats the champion becomes the champion. That had nothing to do with ODLH.

and youre a complete twat .

How can casa who got owned by santa cruz be the champ when Campbell beat Diaz the belts ?!

[SweetPea]

The problem I have with ring magazine is that they had Casa as ring champion conveniently when he was about to fight a golden boy fighter in Marquez. Casa got his ass handed to him by a bum like Santa Cruz yet they still said he was champ but Campbell who beat the next big thing . . the undfeated unified champion in Diaz , is not recognised as the best ?! Gimme a break

Conveniently? Your an idiot dude. Casa was the champ because he beat Diego: THE CHAMP. You get it. It is pretty simple. The person who beats the champion becomes the champion. That had nothing to do with ODLH.

and youre a complete twat .

How can casa who got owned by santa cruz be the champ when Campbell beat Diaz the belts ?!

Because whether it was a good judging decision or not.... Casamayor won the fight against Santa Cruz.

The Ring bases it belts on the linear championship and they respect the official decisions of the judges. That's why the Ring belts have credibility, because there is a defined list of rules on how their belts are handed out. Sanctioning bodies change the rules whenever they feel like it, the Ring doesn't.

[GAME]

Conveniently? Your an idiot dude. Casa was the champ because he beat Diego: THE CHAMP. You get it. It is pretty simple. The person who beats the champion becomes the champion. That had nothing to do with ODLH.

and youre a complete twat .

How can casa who got owned by santa cruz be the champ when Campbell beat Diaz the belts ?!

Because whether it was a good judging decision or not.... Casamayor won the fight against Santa Cruz.

The Ring bases it belts on the linear championship and they respect the official decisions of the judges. That's why the Ring belts have credibility, because there is a defined list of rules on how their belts are handed out. Sanctioning bodies change the rules whenever they feel like it, the Ring doesn't.

fair enough pea but as I said I dont make base my opinion and what 3 judges say . I base it on what I see myself. With so many dodgy decisions these days I think it would be better if everyone else judges it this way .

[RozzySean]

and youre a complete twat .

How can casa who got owned by santa cruz be the champ when Campbell beat Diaz the belts ?!

Because whether it was a good judging decision or not.... Casamayor won the fight against Santa Cruz.

The Ring bases it belts on the linear championship and they respect the official decisions of the judges. That's why the Ring belts have credibility, because there is a defined list of rules on how their belts are handed out. Sanctioning bodies change the rules whenever they feel like it, the Ring doesn't.

fair enough pea but as I said I dont make base my opinion and what 3 judges say . I base it on what I see myself. With so many dodgy decisions these days I think it would be better if everyone else judges it this way .

And alphabet title don't change on dodgy decisions? This is sport we follow. Bad decision are nothing new.

[DaxxKahn]

Conveniently? Your an idiot dude. Casa was the champ because he beat Diego: THE CHAMP. You get it. It is pretty simple. The person who beats the champion becomes the champion. That had nothing to do with ODLH.

and youre a complete twat .

How can casa who got owned by santa cruz be the champ when Campbell beat Diaz the belts ?!

Because whether it was a good judging decision or not.... Casamayor won the fight against Santa Cruz.

The Ring bases it belts on the linear championship and they respect the official decisions of the judges. That's why the Ring belts have credibility, because there is a defined list of rules on how their belts are handed out. Sanctioning bodies change the rules whenever they feel like it, the Ring doesn't.

Exactly...That is why the title is so credible...it is not one that can be stripped, taken away due to BS politics..no mandatories,,,no sanctioning fees, or anything else that goes with it....

To be the champ you have to beat the champ...Bad decisions go on everyday....every organization....you can have munipulated rankings but the champion will always stay legit.....If we went on going by stuff like.."I thought so and so won the fight so IMO he is champ"...then guess what?....You just had the mindset of every bullshit ABC organization out there......

Bernard Hopkins said once after winning he Ring LHW title from Tarver and defending it against Wright....

"I think this is the greatest title there is...Better then any sanctioning title...I value this more then my middleweight crown I held for over a decade...This shows I am the champion and the next person to be champion will be the man who beats me...We will not have to pay a sanctioning fee..we will not have to fight when and where they want us to...we will just fight to see who the best man is and that man will be the champion when the fight is over and done with...Everyone can have the other titles but fact is all they are doing is holding belts...I can buy a belt at the store...I can not buy being the champion"