Another Slight Against Christ

[Trainer Monkey]

Oh my God! How a private group spend their own money to encourage people to be moral individuals without using the fear of the wrath of what might well be a mythological being to compel them!

AAAAAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

It's really easy to explain BG, it's called Freedom of Speech. If you don't like it, well tough shit. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but people are allowed to say what they will, it's not hurting anybody, and it's not like someone is going to read that and go, "you know what? I'm not going to believe in God anymore."

Would you prefer to live in a place where people are not allowed to say such things?

Whilst I agree that freedom of speech means they can say what they want you have to admit it's blatently antagonistic.

That's to say nothing of the sheer hypocrisy on display here These humanists literally run to the law courts every time there's a suggestion that evolution actually be critiqued in the classroom and, heaven forbid that kids might be indoctrinated with the idea that the universe might be intelligently designed. 'Keep it out of the classroom!' they cry, 'religion has no place mixing with science, bla bla bla'.

Yet they themselves have no qualms at all about trying to sabatage Christianity's greatest annual celebration with their positive message of meaningless and nothing

Plus it sounds all very nice to say you can have 'goodness for goodness sake' but what does that actually mean?

Without an absolute frame of reference you cannot have a system of morality as what constitutes 'good' is entirely the subjective opinions of each individual.

As it says in the book of Judges where it describes Isreal's decline into moral decadence and spiritual emptiness 'Without a ruler to judge them, everybody did what was right in his own eyes'.

That basis for morality always leads to complete shitness and the eventual collapse of every civilisation that has gone before us.

The Western world is now just going the way of Ancient Rome, it won't last much longer.

Interestingly theres a frame of refrence available in the Bible, that your not following
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Your po'ed that people are co-opting a holiday the Christians themselves co-opted
And here you are kvetching about the fact that they would dare do that
Not very Christian

[Kev]

Oh my God! How a private group spend their own money to encourage people to be moral individuals without using the fear of the wrath of what might well be a mythological being to compel them!

AAAAAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

It's really easy to explain BG, it's called Freedom of Speech. If you don't like it, well tough shit. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but people are allowed to say what they will, it's not hurting anybody, and it's not like someone is going to read that and go, "you know what? I'm not going to believe in God anymore."

Would you prefer to live in a place where people are not allowed to say such things?

Whilst I agree that freedom of speech means they can say what they want you have to admit it's blatently antagonistic.

That's to say nothing of the sheer hypocrisy on display here These humanists literally run to the law courts every time there's a suggestion that evolution actually be critiqued in the classroom and, heaven forbid that kids might be indoctrinated with the idea that the universe might be intelligently designed. 'Keep it out of the classroom!' they cry, 'religion has no place mixing with science, bla bla bla'.

Yet they themselves have no qualms at all about trying to sabatage Christianity's greatest annual celebration with their positive message of meaningless and nothing

Plus it sounds all very nice to say you can have 'goodness for goodness sake' but what does that actually mean?

Without an absolute frame of reference you cannot have a system of morality as what constitutes 'good' is entirely the subjective opinions of each individual.

As it says in the book of Judges where it describes Isreal's decline into moral decadence and spiritual emptiness 'Without a ruler to judge them, everybody did what was right in his own eyes'.

That basis for morality always leads to complete shitness and the eventual collapse of every civilisation that has gone before us.

The Western world is now just going the way of Ancient Rome, it won't last much longer.

Interestingly theres a frame of refrence available in the Bible, that your not following
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Your po'ed that people are co-opting a holiday the Christians themselves co-opted
And here you are kvetching about the fact that they would dare do that
Not very Christian

Nope, I'm not remotely bothered that they have decided they can gatecrash a Christian festival, as I said it's freedom of speech.

What I said if you bothered to read it properly was that it's blatently hypocritical of these humanists to cry foul and run to the law courts when Christians want to mention intelligent design in the classroom. They appear on the news telling us that Christians should save their message for the Sunday School and Christmas and yet they now want to force Christians to share their Christmas platform with them?

It's just hypocrisy, I personally think it's fine if humanists want to be able to promote an anti Christian Chrismas message, just don't go crying when Christians want to see evolutionary humanism actually critiqued in the classroom rather than accepted unquestionably as sacred dogma.

[Andre]

While we are at it considering the heading and all,this should be of interest too.http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N4...eature=related

[Kev]

While we are at it considering the heading and all,this should be of interest too.http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N4...eature=related

Well it shouldn't be banned but it was a load of uneducated shit.

It is well known that these most of these 'other Jesus' figures derive not from ancient history but the writings of the modern poet and fake Egyptologist Gerald Massey, basically the Dan Brown of his era.

None of his rantings had any basis in historical fact.

He ''taught himself' to decipher the hieroglyphics and just happened to be a practicing pagan druid, in fact the chief of the druid order. He teamed up with some comparative religion scholar to try and link Christiantity to his form of druidic paganism, his works are completely disregarded as having any historical credibility whatsoever.

Regarding Horus his father was Osiris. He was murdered and his Goddess wife put him back together again. She couldn't find his cock so she fashioned him another one and then Horus was born, it's really stretching the imagination to say that was a virgin birth.

There was no star that heralded Horus birth outside of Masseys poems and he never had 12 disciples. He was actually served by some demi Gods, I think about 5 or so that followed him into battle, nothing whatsoever to do with Christ's 12 disciples.

Finally he killed by a scorpian bite not crucified.

It makes me laugh that people will jump to believe any crackpot claims if they diss Christianity even though none of that video had credibility whatsoever.

Just do a google on Gerald Massey and you'll see

[Andre]

While we are at it considering the heading and all,this should be of interest too.http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N4...eature=related

Well it shouldn't be banned but it was a load of uneducated shit.

It is well known that these most of these 'other Jesus' figures derive not from ancient history but the writings of the modern poet and fake Egyptologist Gerald Massey, basically the Dan Brown of his era.

None of his rantings had any basis in historical fact.

He ''taught himself' to decipher the hieroglyphics and just happened to be a practicing pagan druid, in fact the chief of the druid order. He teamed up with some comparative religion scholar to try and link Christiantity to his form of druidic paganism, his works are completely disregarded as having any historical credibility whatsoever.

Regarding Horus his father was Osiris. He was murdered and his Goddess wife put him back together again. She couldn't find his cock so she fashioned him another one and then Horus was born, it's really stretching the imagination to say that was a virgin birth.

There was no star that heralded Horus birth outside of Masseys poems and he never had 12 disciples. He was actually served by some demi Gods, I think about 5 or so that followed him into battle, nothing whatsoever to do with Christ's 12 disciples.

Finally he killed by a scorpian bite not crucified.

It makes me laugh that people will jump to believe any crackpot claims if they diss Christianity even though none of that video had credibility whatsoever.

Just do a google on Gerald Massey and you'll see

Thats good, you should write that in the comments section next to the vid.

[ICB]

I haven't understood a word of what anyone has been trying to say in this thread, but then again religion was never my strong point. When i was given a bible at school it went in the trash shortly after.

[Kev]

While we are at it considering the heading and all,this should be of interest too.http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N4...eature=related

Well it shouldn't be banned but it was a load of uneducated shit.

It is well known that these most of these 'other Jesus' figures derive not from ancient history but the writings of the modern poet and fake Egyptologist Gerald Massey, basically the Dan Brown of his era.

None of his rantings had any basis in historical fact.

He ''taught himself' to decipher the hieroglyphics and just happened to be a practicing pagan druid, in fact the chief of the druid order. He teamed up with some comparative religion scholar to try and link Christiantity to his form of druidic paganism, his works are completely disregarded as having any historical credibility whatsoever.

Regarding Horus his father was Osiris. He was murdered and his Goddess wife put him back together again. She couldn't find his cock so she fashioned him another one and then Horus was born, it's really stretching the imagination to say that was a virgin birth.

There was no star that heralded Horus birth outside of Masseys poems and he never had 12 disciples. He was actually served by some demi Gods, I think about 5 or so that followed him into battle, nothing whatsoever to do with Christ's 12 disciples.

Finally he killed by a scorpian bite not crucified.

It makes me laugh that people will jump to believe any crackpot claims if they diss Christianity even though none of that video had credibility whatsoever.

Just do a google on Gerald Massey and you'll see

Thats good, you should write that in the comments section next to the vid.

Honestly I don't care enough, it seems that there is a huge percentage of people who will just jump on anything that attempts to criticise or disprove the Bible in some way. If it says something negative then these people will immediately accept and embrace it as fact just so they can feel that the Bible has been debunked and their mission is acomplished.

That's probably the lamest anti Christian video I've seen so far though, I mean not one shred of it had any basis in reality or historical fact.

If you are interested though Andre you should check it out for yourself as it's laughable how absurd those claims were, I mean seriously presenting as historical fact the poems and writings of a modern day pagan druid who taught himself to decipher the hieroglyphics of ancient Egypt

There's not a single Egyptologist or ancient historian who has ever taken any of Massey's claims seriously in the 100 years or so since he made them but a few crackpots in the internet age have latched onto them and tried to make them into something.

They make Graham Hancock look like a serious researcher.

[Andre]

Well it shouldn't be banned but it was a load of uneducated shit.

It is well known that these most of these 'other Jesus' figures derive not from ancient history but the writings of the modern poet and fake Egyptologist Gerald Massey, basically the Dan Brown of his era.

None of his rantings had any basis in historical fact.

He ''taught himself' to decipher the hieroglyphics and just happened to be a practicing pagan druid, in fact the chief of the druid order. He teamed up with some comparative religion scholar to try and link Christiantity to his form of druidic paganism, his works are completely disregarded as having any historical credibility whatsoever.

Regarding Horus his father was Osiris. He was murdered and his Goddess wife put him back together again. She couldn't find his cock so she fashioned him another one and then Horus was born, it's really stretching the imagination to say that was a virgin birth.

There was no star that heralded Horus birth outside of Masseys poems and he never had 12 disciples. He was actually served by some demi Gods, I think about 5 or so that followed him into battle, nothing whatsoever to do with Christ's 12 disciples.

Finally he killed by a scorpian bite not crucified.

It makes me laugh that people will jump to believe any crackpot claims if they diss Christianity even though none of that video had credibility whatsoever.

Just do a google on Gerald Massey and you'll see

Thats good, you should write that in the comments section next to the vid.

Honestly I don't care enough, it seems that there is a huge percentage of people who will just jump on anything that attempts to criticise or disprove the Bible in some way. If it says something negative then these people will immediately accept and embrace it as fact just so they can feel that the Bible has been debunked and their mission is acomplished.

That's probably the lamest anti Christian video I've seen so far though, I mean not one shred of it had any basis in reality or historical fact.

If you are interested though Andre you should check it out for yourself as it's laughable how absurd those claims were, I mean seriously presenting as historical fact the poems and writings of a modern day pagan druid who taught himself to decipher the hieroglyphics of ancient Egypt

There's not a single Egyptologist or ancient historian who has ever taken any of Massey's claims seriously in the 100 years or so since he made them but a few crackpots in the internet age have latched onto them and tried to make them into something.

They make Graham Hancock look like a serious researcher.

Ive not heard of him before yesterday.fitted the thread well though.

Found some more stuff in a forum too but even more way out.

I think the Greek story is for real though isn't it?
I have heard before though from a few different people that the same story line is from another previous time in Greek mythology is that right?
Is there a site around that attacks Masseys stuff with facts i'd be interested for sure.
i only found old stuff on the guyafter you mentioned him nothing new really.