Sould fifteen round championship fights make a return?

[Spicoli]

Count on a yes vote from Librado Andrade

[Spicoli]

Really though I think it just would not be practical....Too many Indians and not enough chiefs running the organizations today to resist and disagree,Not to mention the Medical officials.Fighters are trained and conditioned now a days being a bit more Clock conscious and timing out rounds....well some at least.As for a punishment/damage factor I just don't see it being that different.Damage is accumulative down the stretch but Some might just compensate with not just the first round being the "feeling out round" but adjust to 1,2 or more serving that purpose to reserve strength in the late rounds??May sound far fetched but It's possible. I'd stick with 12 max.

What I ask is why pick 12 in the first place.Even number as opposed to 15 making Draws seem more possible...at least mathematically without KD'ds and point deductions.I have heard of Tie breaker rounds,Don king floated that idea I think along with that stuff about open scoring,Ugh! Really,If they want to reform and/or make changes...Let them start with some type of insurance/unified body for fighters once they have exited the sport?

[XaduBoxer]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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[brucelee]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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Well said...

[Gandalf]

World title fights should be 15 rounders. Absolutely.

Twelve rounds is too short, especially when you get a great fight that is close.

Seperate the boys from the warriors.

[C-Lo]

Some people can barely last 12 let alone 15.

They should have all alphabet title fights go 12 rounds. But the RING Magazine title (the only one that matters) should go for 15 rounds. Then they would be able to bring back the term "championship rounds" some substance.

[holmcall]

They often fight 11 rounders in Thailand.

[Taeth]

Some people can barely last 12 let alone 15.

They should have all alphabet title fights go 12 rounds. But the RING Magazine title (the only one that matters) should go for 15 rounds. Then they would be able to bring back the term "championship rounds" some substance.

All the true champions go 12 easily, and the best ones go 15 just as easily. I mean you hear about them traing like Mayweather going against Lovemore N'Dou and Baldomir for 20x5minute rounds. Thats insane.

I really think it would help guys like MAyweather who's style is to use defense to tire out your opponent. IMO if Mayweather-De La Hoya was 15 rounds I don't think Oscar would have finished teh fight, the last two rounds besides the brief trading of shots at the end of the 12th were very ugly for Oscar, and I think it would just gotten worse over the last 3 rounds to the point someone would have stopped it. I really think Floyd and Bernard Hopkins have suffered from it NOT being 15 rounds, except Hopkins was lucky for the 12 rounds against Joe, though he still didn't get the decision. On that note Joe Calzaghe to, I think he would have a LOT more stoppage wins if it were 15 round fights, I see him potentially stopping Hopkins(I can't see Hopkins standing 3 more rounds in that fight), He would have stopped Kessler likely, and Lacy for sure.

[Trainer Monkey]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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I pity the Quarry family
Hey Ali do the shuffle,Joe, sing a couple of bars for us and then drive across town.
15 rounds,great idea
Why dont we show our concern for the poor boxers by going back to 100 rounds

[holmcall]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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I pity the Quarry family
Hey Ali do the shuffle,Joe, sing a couple of bars for us and then drive across town.
15 rounds,great idea

Points taken on that post.

[Trainer Monkey]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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I pity the Quarry family
Hey Ali do the shuffle,Joe, sing a couple of bars for us and then drive across town.
15 rounds,great idea

Points taken on that post.

With knockdowns you could still end with a draw,no matter what the number of rounds.
People dont consider exhaustion,dehydration,and repeated concussive force, when they discuss this,and shear cussedness, some guys just wont go the hell down and stay there.
Ali/Frazier there was a rumour floating after the first one, that Frazier had died, he just wouldnt go down. And he was never the same after that.

[C-Lo]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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Just because the rounds are an even number doesn't severly effect the chance of a draw. That's why knockdowns are worth extra and point deductions cause a flux in points.

[XaduBoxer]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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Just because the rounds are an even number doesn't severly effect the chance of a draw. That's why knockdowns are worth extra and point deductions cause a flux in points.

I think having an odd number of rounds will definitely MINIMIZE the "draw" results... since it will eliminate the situations where judges gave same number of rounds to both boxers in a 10-point must system and assuming no knockdowns/points deductions in the fight...

If there's no points deductions and no knockdowns, it's expected that the fight will NOT end in a draw for an odd number of rounds fight...
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[Trainer Monkey]

I'm in favor for a change but not to 15. My idea is to have an odd number of rounds, maybe 11 or 13 rounds. This is to minimize a "draw" verdict. I pity those boxers fighting their hearts out and the fight just ended in a draw...
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Just because the rounds are an even number doesn't severly effect the chance of a draw. That's why knockdowns are worth extra and point deductions cause a flux in points.

I think having an odd number of rounds will definitely MINIMIZE the "draw" results... since it will eliminate the situations where judges gave same number of rounds to both boxers in a 10-point must system and assuming no knockdowns in the fight...

If there's no point deductions and no knockdowns, it's expected that the fight will NOT end in a draw for an odd number of rounds fight...
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Your forgetting odd number of judges
And that leads to inconclusive mixed decisions all the time
You could play Clazeghe/Hopkins in front of 151 different judges,and you allmost allways end up with different results

[XaduBoxer]

Just because the rounds are an even number doesn't severly effect the chance of a draw. That's why knockdowns are worth extra and point deductions cause a flux in points.

I think having an odd number of rounds will definitely MINIMIZE the "draw" results... since it will eliminate the situations where judges gave same number of rounds to both boxers in a 10-point must system and assuming no knockdowns in the fight...

If there's no point deductions and no knockdowns, it's expected that the fight will NOT end in a draw for an odd number of rounds fight...
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Your forgetting odd number of judges
And that leads to inconclusive mixed decisions all the time
You could play Clazeghe/Hopkins in front of 151 different judges,and you allmost allways end up with different results

Assuming there's no KDs and deductions, in odd number of rounds a judge is expected to determine a winner. For example Judge A has Boxer 1, then Judge B has Boxer 2. Judge C can't give an even (draw) total score for the fight because of the odd number of rounds so Judge C has either Boxer 1 or Boxer 2 as winner then it results to a majority decision (MD) win of either boxers.

But the judge has all the capability to manipulate the score. The judge can score a round even, 9-9 or a 10-10 round that can result to a draw but these are exceptional situations.

Though as always, the question still remains the same, does that boxer really deserve the win? At least they proclaim someone a winner instead of a draw. Odd number of rounds become a motivation (or added pressure?) for the boxer for there will be a minimal chance for a draw. So meaning if the boxer feels he's behind in the scorecards then he really needs a KO to win, he can't hope for a draw.
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