Randy vs Brock

[JT Rock]

there are a whole series of chokes that are easier if the guy has big arms and a big neck, brabo, annaconda, figure 4 etc etc, leg locks and knee bars get ya big legs or toothpicks, the biggest challenge from Lesnar is getting past the powerful hands. that said, congrats the better fighter that night won. but submission proof becuase he's big? dude try practicing bjj...you will get another opinion.

I agree I have choked out many of guys of all shapes and sizes... Proper technique far outweighs size and strength. you just have to be more patient and make sure you are going to get the sub.. "position before submission" some of the biggest mistakes I see is when a guy attempts a sub when he dosent have proper position or when he is hellbent on pulling off a sub when its clearly not working, often times that leaves you vulnerable to get hammered or you give up dominant position or put in a bad position.

[JT Rock]

Nogs often times takes a helacious beating waiting for a sub, I dont know if he can withstand the ground and pound or wearing down, a big, strong quick guy like Lesnar could dish out

[GAME]

Nogs often times takes a helacious beating waiting for a sub, I dont know if he can withstand the ground and pound or wearing down, a big, strong quick guy like Lesnar could dish out

Brock looked like he was gassing after 1 round with a 45 year old. A tired man is easier to sudmit. Ive seen Nog take horrific beatings and comeback .

Brock cant do anything to nog that Fedor couldnt do. Nog survived the distance with the greatest so I think he will survive Brock but when the big man tires hes in a world of trouble . I pick Nog by late round sudmission if that fight ever happens.

[iceman]

i still think a lot of people fail to realize, a triangle, the brabo etc can be done easier on big necked, big shouldered guys..their muscles help you tap them...try it

[Munkymagic]

i still think a lot of people fail to realize, a triangle, the brabo etc can be done easier on big necked, big shouldered guys..their muscles help you tap them...try it

I am a judo BB,been a dan grade for 5 years,done well in some comps, been practicing BJJ now for a year, have 10 years combatives experience...i still find it tougher to get a frickin traingle on guys with big necks and big arms.....the issue is getting the sankaku-jime locked in and the lifting off the deck. If you get an arm it does make it easier to roll to the side to stop them from lifting up. In judo once you are off the deck the strangle/choke has to be released.

That said.. I've always had snags with triangle chokes lol, defo not one of my favourites and not my forte'...from the guard i'll always go for an arm.

But you are right mate

[VictorCharlie]

Well I have to say I have been very impressed with the progression of Brock. While I wouldn't call his striking "technical" I thought he mixed it up well and showed good timing and instincts. He showed control and patience which to me goes to an overall maturing as a fighter. He still needs some ground work. Randy's escape towards the end of the first round was pretty awesome, but Brock never should have let him back up. All this being said Brock brings a new combination of athleticism and size that we haven't seen at HW. I think outside of Fedor he is a pick em fight with just about anyone. I wouldn't be suprised if he beat Nog nor would I be suprised to see him pummel him for four rounds then get tapped out a la Nog's MO. I think the real question is how much more can Brock continue to progress and evolve. In all honesty the fighter I think would be the most telling against Brock is Barnett. I'd love to see this fight