You definitely are only an armchair boxer who has never been in the ring or gym because although boxers are not supposed to go full out in sparring they do go full out almost as much as not; and if you have not heard how James Toney busts up his Sparring partners then you must not be an avid fan either.

Just plug in any fighters name + sparring and see how brutal sparring is though I would hope that Toney is not as hard on Karmazin as he is with the big boys. Here are about 10 minutes of googling to prove my point

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...5128&view=next

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4361&more=1


http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews.../4277203241629 marciano

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=2061&more=1 frazier

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=1 Tyson

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=1438&more=1 Danny williams

http://www.boxinginsider.com/news/stories/149135656.php Margarito beats Oscar

In videos Joe Louis used to knock out his sparing opponents all the time then one day Joe Walcott sparred with him and knocked him down three times and thus was fired by Louis’s trainer just like margarito did.


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2282684 Margarito and Paul Williams

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...c.php?p=156132 Toney