How are blacks treated in the UK?

[Wayne]

Truth be told, the American slaves were the best treated in history- doesn't make it right, but it speaks to your statement about the treatment of blacks.

This is a very shitty thing to say. That's like saying the woman who was raped and kissed on the cheek was treated better than the woman who was raped and dumped in an alley. I don't think either would equate anything about the whole experience as being treated "better".

Ask any one of those slaves who were dumped in the Atlantic ocean if they thought they were getting a better shake. Ask the one who was hobbled to keep him from running away. Ask the one who was raped repeatedly by her master or ask the one who was lynched for some minor offense, either real or imaginary. No, the word "better" does not apply.

[Wayne]

Also, to the original point of the thread[/b], there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment

I'm sorry to be gruesome here, but some people need to have the blindfold stripped from their eyes...

Emmitt Till 1955 before:



And after:



Rodney King-1991:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROn_9302UHg

Malice Green-1992:



James Byrd-1998:



Brandon McClelland-2008:



The word "whining" used in this context is just as irresponsible as saying racism in America is "over". The fact we have a black president doesn't change as much as you think. Sure it's not every white person and neither would I imply as such, just like I can't dispute that some black people aren't whiners. But those people are no different than their white counterparts who also grab onto anything to complain about, proclaiming the world is somehow against them. To apply such an unqualified generalization about black people, cemented by the citing of our 44th president's ethnicity is deeply offensive. But I suppose you may sweep me into the pile of those "whiners".

[El Kabong]

Well buddy I know bad things still happen to ALL kinds of people because of racism. I just want people to realize that racism, bigotry, etc is not strictly confined to the Southeastern United States.

People wrongly think that because of the Civil War and the segregation in the South that racism is only here.....well if people taught history a bit better they would realize segregation was in a number of places outside the South and the Civil War was fought because of the economy and not slavery. Slavery was used as a rallying cry by Lincoln to gain support for the Union and grow the Union forces. Sorry if anyone has been taught otherwise but it's the truth.


There are a ton of racists in the north but noooooobody will admit it

[Trainer Monkey]

Well buddy I know bad things still happen to ALL kinds of people because of racism. I just want people to realize that racism, bigotry, etc is not strictly confined to the Southeastern United States.

People wrongly think that because of the Civil War and the segregation in the South that racism is only here.....well if people taught history a bit better they would realize segregation was in a number of places outside the South and the Civil War was fought because of the economy and not slavery. Slavery was used as a rallying cry by Lincoln to gain support for the Union and grow the Union forces. Sorry if anyone has been taught otherwise but it's the truth.


There are a ton of racists in the north but noooooobody will admit it

I was raised in the north,and Id be the first to admit it
Look no further then the York PA riots

[Wayne]

Well buddy I know bad things still happen to ALL kinds of people because of racism. I just want people to realize that racism, bigotry, etc is not strictly confined to the Southeastern United States.

People wrongly think that because of the Civil War and the segregation in the South that racism is only here.....well if people taught history a bit better they would realize segregation was in a number of places outside the South and the Civil War was fought because of the economy and not slavery. Slavery was used as a rallying cry by Lincoln to gain support for the Union and grow the Union forces. Sorry if anyone has been taught otherwise but it's the truth.


There are a ton of racists in the north but noooooobody will admit it

Nail on the head, Lyle. The biggest difference between racists in the North and racists in the South is the northern ones do it behind your back.

And the Civil War was about economy but slavery was a BIG tie-in to what made the southern economy run. A lot of northerners thought it was unfair that the South essentially had free labor and they butted heads over new states coming into the union being allowed to adopt slavery as a practice. If anything, Lincoln was indifferent about slavery, he wasn't pro-negro despite textbooks painting him as the Great Emancipator. Many of the advances blacks got was because northerners were busy trying to stick it to the South. If they South had been allowed to secede their economy would have failed and they would have come crawling back to join up. I'm kidding, I have no idea about that one, but I heard it said.

[Master]

Interesting reading over the three pages.

Religion was used to justify slavery through racist ideas of separate races when in fact it was purely economics that was the reason why it was justified.

Africa as well as some of the other countries like India could have been far more prosperous than they are now (Note I said could), had they not been stripped of their resources and wealth.

I do not believe that we are all inherently racist, I believe if you interact with various groups of people from different backgrounds then your perspective will broaden and more likely to be understanding.

I also believe that an individual is always responsible for their actions and it is they that should be held accountable for them. Some people face more holes in the ground that they have to jump over in their life than others do but it is always their responsibility not to fall in them.

However, I like the poster that said “we have come a long way but we are not all the way yet”.

[Formerly D@vid Leeder]

Since it was the UK who began the slave trade in the 16th century, how were blacks treated after their so called freedom in the 1800's? And did the British go about treating blacks like we did here in the US as late as the 1960's?

Slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wow, talk about a loaded question.

So the U.K. started the slave trade? Somebody better tell The Bible historians, the Egyptians, and the Romans that they didn't actually have slaves.

[CGM]

When I was in highschool, there wasn't a lot of overt prejudice against blacks, but East Endians (Ragheads, Turban Twisters, etc) did take a lot of crap. Some of us were real bastards. It was to my everlasting regret that I participated in some of that stuff.

[Wayne]

I gotta say I never felt like I was being treated differently because I was black in Canada. Granted, I've only been to Windsor, but every time I've ever been there has been a good experience. The people are always extremely helpful when necessary and friendly to a fault. If my wife and I ever leave Michigan--whoa, sidenote; Roberto Duran is FAT--Canada is on the shortlist of places we might relocate to.

[CFH]

I gotta say I never felt like I was being treated differently because I was black in Canada. Granted, I've only been to Windsor, but every time I've ever been there has been a good experience. The people are always extremely helpful when necessary and friendly to a fault. If my wife and I ever leave Michigan--whoa, sidenote; Roberto Duran is FAT--Canada is on the shortlist of places we might relocate to.

We're much more likely to dislike you for being American than for being black.

[CGM]

I gotta say I never felt like I was being treated differently because I was black in Canada. Granted, I've only been to Windsor, but every time I've ever been there has been a good experience. The people are always extremely helpful when necessary and friendly to a fault. If my wife and I ever leave Michigan--whoa, sidenote; Roberto Duran is FAT--Canada is on the shortlist of places we might relocate to.

We're much more likely to dislike you for being American than for being black.

LOL. At least were not racist, just nationalist

[CGM]

I gotta say I never felt like I was being treated differently because I was black in Canada. Granted, I've only been to Windsor, but every time I've ever been there has been a good experience. The people are always extremely helpful when necessary and friendly to a fault. If my wife and I ever leave Michigan--whoa, sidenote; Roberto Duran is FAT--Canada is on the shortlist of places we might relocate to.

damn, bells are ringing. That remark is going to cost me sleep trying to figure out.

[El Kabong]

So the U.K. started the slave trade? Somebody better tell The Bible historians, the Egyptians, and the Romans that they didn't actually have slaves.

When the term "slave trade" is used it usually refers to the TransAtlantic Slave Trade where slaves were brought from Africa to America, America shipped goods the slaves helped produce to Europe, Europe brought goods they produced with the goods America sent them to Africa to buy off tribal leaders and get more slaves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T...trade_euro.png

[Andre]

When I was in highschool, there wasn't a lot of overt prejudice against blacks, but East Endians (Ragheads, Turban Twisters, etc) did take a lot of crap. Some of us were real bastards. It was to my everlasting regret that I participated in some of that stuff.

We've all done it mate, said or thought something when stooping down to the level of placing someone of one race into the old "OH them" basket".

You have learned the lesson,so be free from it ,it has served its purpose.
You would never go there again ,so that was a blessing.
Don't carry any guilt with you into the future or its self defeating, no need for any punishment ,even self inflicted guilt styled ones, if the lessons are learnt ,the job was well done, however harsh the process.Thats life its why we are here .

[El Kabong]

Racism is just the result of a lazy mind