Haye "I want Vitali first""

[DaxxKahn]

I find it amusing that the Lennox Lewis supporters hate Wlad when they are basically similar styles of fighters. If Lewis is Ali then Wlad is Larry Holmes.....Wlad is the Rodney Dangerfield of heavyweight fighters, he gets no respect.

I think I may be the only guy here who has anything positive to say about Wlad and I am the biggest Lewis fan on this site hands down.....

Don't know where you got Lewis is Ali?.....

Don't know where you think Lewis and Wlad are similar?...explain that one..

[El Kabong]

I think I may be the only guy here who has anything positive to say about Wlad and I am the biggest Lewis fan on this site hands down.....

Don't know where you got Lewis is Ali?.....

Don't know where you think Lewis and Wlad are similar?...explain that one..

OK allow me to explain

#1: Manny Steward, trainer of both fighters

#2 Lennox Lewis was also considered EXTREMELY boring (only by the Tyson fans).

#3 I compared Lewis to Ali and Wlad to Holmes because Ali and Holmes had quasi-similar styles (as do Lewis and Wlad) and Ali overshaddowed Holmes' whole career and it seems as though Lewis will do the same to Wlad.


I think Wladimir can still be an all-time great fighter he's 31/32 and can prove a lot before he retires, he's already won 51 fights, 45 by KO he has fought enough people to where you know he has the skill to be great, sure he has been KO'd 3 times but hell there have been other greats who have been KO'd more times than that and it's not held against them.

I am of the opinion that "You don't know what you have until it's gone" and if Wlad retired tomorrow the heavyweight division (even WITH Vitali) would be in a bigger state of suck.

[DaxxKahn]

I think I may be the only guy here who has anything positive to say about Wlad and I am the biggest Lewis fan on this site hands down.....

Don't know where you got Lewis is Ali?.....

Don't know where you think Lewis and Wlad are similar?...explain that one..

OK allow me to explain

#1: Manny Steward, trainer of both fighters

#2 Lennox Lewis was also considered EXTREMELY boring (only by the Tyson fans).

#3 I compared Lewis to Ali and Wlad to Holmes because Ali and Holmes had quasi-similar styles (as do Lewis and Wlad) and Ali overshaddowed Holmes' whole career and it seems as though Lewis will do the same to Wlad.


I think Wladimir can still be an all-time great fighter he's 31/32 and can prove a lot before he retires, he's already won 51 fights, 45 by KO he has fought enough people to where you know he has the skill to be great, sure he has been KO'd 3 times but hell there have been other greats who have been KO'd more times than that and it's not held against them.

I am of the opinion that "You don't know what you have until it's gone" and if Wlad retired tomorrow the heavyweight division (even WITH Vitali) would be in a bigger state of suck.

OK got ya now...Thought you were saying that people have compared Lewis to Ali and if that is the case then Wlad is another Larry Holmes....Was confused thinking "I never heard anyone compare Lewis to Ali"....I mis-understood...my mistake...

Agreed on all of it now that I understand it....

Yes we would realize what we had in Wlad if he left tommorow...Just like those who did not appreciate Lewis until he retired...Wlad has rime to become the whole package...Like I stated in another post...Lewis did not reach peak until 33 or so and Wlad is still gettin better so I also agree on that.....the 3 KO's on Wlads record are not a disaster...I don't understand why people only focus on the negative abot him....Guess some are never satisfied

The only thing between him and Lewis (As for the boring part which seems as though that was the biggest complaint on Lennox)..Is Lewis had a killer instinct and he was a great finisher...Had a KO% of over 70....and contrary to the non fans he had a solid chin...a vid on youtube shows some shots he absorbed in various bouts and they were thunderous.....

[El Kabong]

Yes we do agree Dax but I must stress these things to you and everyone else:

#1 Wlad DOES have a killer instinct however his past mistakes vs Purrity and Brewster have left him a little more cautious but I doubt anyone can see any lack of killer instinct here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_sWnawpU4

As soon as he saw the opening as Lennox said "It's ovah"

#2 Wlad does have a decent chin...look what Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders had to hit Wlad with before the fight got stopped. Wlad kept getting back up, he never knew what to do AFTER he got hit but as far as the punches, he took them pretty well from what I saw

[DaxxKahn]

Yes we do agree Dax but I must stress these things to you and everyone else:

#1 Wlad DOES have a killer instinct however his past mistakes vs Purrity and Brewster have left him a little more cautious but I doubt anyone can see any lack of killer instinct here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_sWnawpU4

As soon as he saw the opening as Lennox said "It's ovah"

#2 Wlad does have a decent chin...look what Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders had to hit Wlad with before the fight got stopped. Wlad kept getting back up, he never knew what to do AFTER he got hit but as far as the punches, he took them pretty well from what I saw

I believe and have posted this before...Many of Wlads problems of not dealing with Knockdowns so well is nerves......If you remember when he went down in the Peter fight he looked so clumsy in doing so as if he had no idea on how to handle it.....Most guys just go down deal with it liosten to the ref and get up on the 8 count...Wlad seems like a chicken without his head.........

I always thought/hopes the longer he went with Manny th more he would gain poise....in such situations...

Yes I also agree Wlad does not have the worst chin in the world...I have seen much worse..