Who beat Malignaggi better?

[TitoFan]

oh please....

The answer to this question came from Malignaggi's own mouth after the fight.

Didn't he just say Cotto hurt him more?

First time Hatton landed cleanly Paulie was on queer street. After that he just grabbed hold.

You have to say Hatton. Cotto fight might have been more brutal, but it was a much closer fight. Paulie won 4/5 rounds against Cotto and he stunned him.

Paulie is supposed to be a better fighter now with the world title fights under his belt, but he was outclassed big time last night. He was outboxed, out sped, out fought. The speed that Hatton closed the distance had Paulie hesitating, and Paulie didn't want to throw anything of his own because he was scared of what would come back.

A novice (in comparison) Paulie broke his hand and cheekbone(i think) against Cotto and still made it really competitive. Hatton anhialated him.

And what's the point of this useless thread? To imply that Hatton is somehow better than Cotto? Too bad they never met in the ring. That would've settled a lot of moot arguments in the past. Of course, if Hatton would consider going up to 147 to fight DLH, maybe he should have a tune-up first against Cotto (at 147).

[Beanflicker]

I'd have to say Cotto. Ricky won more rounds, but Cotto gave him a worse beating I think. Also, the stoppage has no bearing, because it was a dumb stoppage and IMO Ricky was not going to stop paulie if MCgirt didnt throw the towel in.

[leftylee]

The only people who vote for Cotto must be groupies.

Cotto conceeded 4/5 rounds against this chump.

Hatton conceeded one and beat him both on the inside and outside.

Big wow Cotto floored him, it was a flash knockdown anyway. When Hatton landed a jab it looked like Paulie would go down.

Hatton took him to school, Paulie was very much competitive in the Cotto fight.

Easy choice IMO.

[TitoFan]

The only people who vote for Cotto must be groupies.

Cotto conceeded 4/5 rounds against this chump.

Hatton conceeded one and beat him both on the inside and outside.

Big wow Cotto floored him, it was a flash knockdown anyway. When Hatton landed a jab it looked like Paulie would go down.

Hatton took him to school, Paulie was very much competitive in the Cotto fight.

Easy choice IMO.

And your point.... ?

See my previous post two posts before yours.

[leftylee]

The only people who vote for Cotto must be groupies.

Cotto conceeded 4/5 rounds against this chump.

Hatton conceeded one and beat him both on the inside and outside.

Big wow Cotto floored him, it was a flash knockdown anyway. When Hatton landed a jab it looked like Paulie would go down.

Hatton took him to school, Paulie was very much competitive in the Cotto fight.

Easy choice IMO.

And your point.... ?

See my previous post two posts before yours.

Doesn't matter what Paulie's mouth looked like

Cotto COULD NOT get him out of there: Hatton did.
Cotto conceded 4/5 rounds: Hatton conceded 1.

[SigmaMu]

The only people who vote for Cotto must be groupies.

Cotto conceeded 4/5 rounds against this chump.

Hatton conceeded one and beat him both on the inside and outside.

Big wow Cotto floored him, it was a flash knockdown anyway. When Hatton landed a jab it looked like Paulie would go down.

Hatton took him to school, Paulie was very much competitive in the Cotto fight.

Easy choice IMO.

And your point.... ?

See my previous post two posts before yours.

Doesn't matter what Paulie's mouth looked like

Cotto COULD NOT get him out of there: Hatton did.
Cotto conceded 4/5 rounds: Hatton conceded 1.

Remember that Cotto broke his hand in the fifth.
Hatton never stopped Malignaggi, it was Paulies corner who stopped it. Paulie is known for being tough and his corner even took that away from him. I believe that Cotto would have knocked Pualie out had he not broken his hand. I guess we will just have to see what Hatton still has and has learned when he gets in the ring with someone better than Malignaggi who IMO sucks and after he got served by Cotto, he has never been the same but if Paulie is the best that weight division has then it is a very lousy division.

[leftylee]

And your point.... ?

See my previous post two posts before yours.

Doesn't matter what Paulie's mouth looked like

Cotto COULD NOT get him out of there: Hatton did.
Cotto conceded 4/5 rounds: Hatton conceded 1.

Remember that Cotto broke his hand in the fifth.
Hatton never stopped Malignaggi, it was Paulies corner who stopped it. Paulie is known for being tough and his corner even took that away from him. I believe that Cotto would have knocked Pualie out had he not broken his hand. I guess we will just have to see what Hatton still has and has learned when he gets in the ring with someone better than Malignaggi who IMO sucks and after he got served by Cotto, he has never been the same but if Paulie is the best that weight division has then it is a very lousy division.

You gotta watch the 1st N'Dou fight seriousley.

[TitoFan]

The only people who vote for Cotto must be groupies.

Cotto conceeded 4/5 rounds against this chump.

Hatton conceeded one and beat him both on the inside and outside.

Big wow Cotto floored him, it was a flash knockdown anyway. When Hatton landed a jab it looked like Paulie would go down.

Hatton took him to school, Paulie was very much competitive in the Cotto fight.

Easy choice IMO.

And your point.... ?

See my previous post two posts before yours.

Doesn't matter what Paulie's mouth looked like

Cotto COULD NOT get him out of there: Hatton did.
Cotto conceded 4/5 rounds: Hatton conceded 1.

Oh... ok leftylee. You got me there. Gee, I guess that does it. By virtue of Hatton winning more rounds against Paulie than Cotto did, that must make him better.



Small minds win small arguments, eh?

[Bx730NY]

The only people who vote for Cotto must be groupies.

Cotto conceeded 4/5 rounds against this chump.

Hatton conceeded one and beat him both on the inside and outside.

Big wow Cotto floored him, it was a flash knockdown anyway. When Hatton landed a jab it looked like Paulie would go down.

Hatton took him to school, Paulie was very much competitive in the Cotto fight.

Easy choice IMO.

I voted Cotto and i'm definitely no groupie. But I do know who's a Hatton groupie.

Cotto's beat him when he was undefeated and felt unbeatable and still had use of his right hand. it was clear that he had some sort of trouble with his right because just about everytime he threw it he landed it on Hattons face and that would make anyone want to let it go.

That being said, I think Hatton made some very good improvements very quickly under hi new trainer and he changed my mind about what i thought he had left in the tank. He looked better conditioned even though its much different when you're getting return fire. He definitely learned how to box better without the recklessness.

Think about this, if Mcgirt stopped it at that point in the Hatton fight, what do you think he would have done if he was in the corner for the Cotto fight. He would have probably tried to jump in and help because paulie looked mashed.

[ono]

oh please....

The answer to this question came from Malignaggi's own mouth after the fight.

Didn't he just say Cotto hurt him more?

First time Hatton landed cleanly Paulie was on queer street. After that he just grabbed hold.

You have to say Hatton. Cotto fight might have been more brutal, but it was a much closer fight. Paulie won 4/5 rounds against Cotto and he stunned him.

Paulie is supposed to be a better fighter now with the world title fights under his belt, but he was outclassed big time last night. He was outboxed, out sped, out fought. The speed that Hatton closed the distance had Paulie hesitating, and Paulie didn't want to throw anything of his own because he was scared of what would come back.

A novice (in comparison) Paulie broke his hand and cheekbone(i think) against Cotto and still made it really competitive. Hatton anhialated him.

And what's the point of this useless thread? To imply that Hatton is somehow better than Cotto? Too bad they never met in the ring. That would've settled a lot of moot arguments in the past. Of course, if Hatton would consider going up to 147 to fight DLH, maybe he should have a tune-up first against Cotto (at 147).

I don't know i didn't start the thread.

There's no point you winking like you know something we don't. Everybody knows Cotto would be too much for Hatton at 147. He's naturally bigger and stronger....and technically a better fighter.

If they had have met in the past it would likely be at 140 where Cotto wasn't as strong. Cotto would have had a lot of problems imo.

I just find it strange that anybody can say Cotto did a better job on Paulie considering he gave away 4 or 5 rounds to a guy who broke his hand. It's the sport of Boxing. Rounds win you fights. If we we're judging street fights then i'd be inclined to say Cotto did a terrific job, but he got hit far too frequently (and stunned) for me to say he did a better job than a guy who hardly got hit and totally dominated every aspect of the fight.

Not knocking Cotto....i love watching him. Just don't think he was as effective at 140 as Hatton has been. 147 = different story.

[richard (mossley)]

Clearly Hatton. If Paulie bothered to stand up and actually take part in the fight it would have been over by rd 5.

[TitoFan]

Didn't he just say Cotto hurt him more?

First time Hatton landed cleanly Paulie was on queer street. After that he just grabbed hold.

You have to say Hatton. Cotto fight might have been more brutal, but it was a much closer fight. Paulie won 4/5 rounds against Cotto and he stunned him.

Paulie is supposed to be a better fighter now with the world title fights under his belt, but he was outclassed big time last night. He was outboxed, out sped, out fought. The speed that Hatton closed the distance had Paulie hesitating, and Paulie didn't want to throw anything of his own because he was scared of what would come back.

A novice (in comparison) Paulie broke his hand and cheekbone(i think) against Cotto and still made it really competitive. Hatton anhialated him.

And what's the point of this useless thread? To imply that Hatton is somehow better than Cotto? Too bad they never met in the ring. That would've settled a lot of moot arguments in the past. Of course, if Hatton would consider going up to 147 to fight DLH, maybe he should have a tune-up first against Cotto (at 147).

I don't know i didn't start the thread.

There's no point you winking like you know something we don't. Everybody knows Cotto would be too much for Hatton at 147. He's naturally bigger and stronger....and technically a better fighter.

If they had have met in the past it would likely be at 140 where Cotto wasn't as strong. Cotto would have had a lot of problems imo.

I just find it strange that anybody can say Cotto did a better job on Paulie considering he gave away 4 or 5 rounds to a guy who broke his hand. It's the sport of Boxing. Rounds win you fights. If we we're judging street fights then i'd be inclined to say Cotto did a terrific job, but he got hit far too frequently (and stunned) for me to say he did a better job than a guy who hardly got hit and totally dominated every aspect of the fight.

Not knocking Cotto....i love watching him. Just don't think he was as effective at 140 as Hatton has been. 147 = different story.

Fair enough, ono. I still don't get the point of the thread, but I can agree on a lot of your points. I will say that IMO Cotto was pretty damn effective at 140. But as time went on he found it harder and harder to make the weight. He moved up to 147 at the right time.

[ono]

And what's the point of this useless thread? To imply that Hatton is somehow better than Cotto? Too bad they never met in the ring. That would've settled a lot of moot arguments in the past. Of course, if Hatton would consider going up to 147 to fight DLH, maybe he should have a tune-up first against Cotto (at 147).

I don't know i didn't start the thread.

There's no point you winking like you know something we don't. Everybody knows Cotto would be too much for Hatton at 147. He's naturally bigger and stronger....and technically a better fighter.

If they had have met in the past it would likely be at 140 where Cotto wasn't as strong. Cotto would have had a lot of problems imo.

I just find it strange that anybody can say Cotto did a better job on Paulie considering he gave away 4 or 5 rounds to a guy who broke his hand. It's the sport of Boxing. Rounds win you fights. If we we're judging street fights then i'd be inclined to say Cotto did a terrific job, but he got hit far too frequently (and stunned) for me to say he did a better job than a guy who hardly got hit and totally dominated every aspect of the fight.

Not knocking Cotto....i love watching him. Just don't think he was as effective at 140 as Hatton has been. 147 = different story.

Fair enough, ono. I still don't get the point of the thread, but I can agree on a lot of your points. I will say that IMO Cotto was pretty damn effective at 140. But as time went on he found it harder and harder to make the weight. He moved up to 147 at the right time.

Yeah he was. He had some great wins.....just don't think his chin was that strong at 140......well the longer he stayed at the weight anyway.

He had a great war with Torres. That was awesome to watch.

Hatton - Cotto should have happened about 3 years ago. It would have been great.

[The Promoter]

Cotto clearly "damaged" PM more, broke him up in all sorts of ways, but the fight was comepetitive with Paullie winning 4 maybe 5 rounds...The Hatton fight was probably a more one-sided fight with Paullie winning round one, maybe...I would also state that the fighter Cotto faced was far more "lively" with better legs, better jab and more coourage than the fighter that Hatton faced...was it styles? maybe..or was it that Paullie was "changed" after the Cotto fight...no one will know for sure, either way I think Paullie is done...I will say that the reason the Cotto fight was allowed to continue was that it was a reasonably competitive fight from a scoring perspective while the Hatton fight was basically a shut-out with no chance for PM to come back.

Since the Cotto fight was a decision and Paullie did win some rounds I'd have to say that Hatton "beat" him better but MC gave the better "Beat Down" of the two...

[ross]

Everybody knows Cotto would be too much for Hatton at 147. He's naturally bigger and stronger....and technically a better fighter.

Eh?

How many natural Welters has Cotto fought and how many did he beat?

How can Cotto be techincally better when Ricky totally outclassed Paulie and gave away one round whereas against Cotto people thought Paulie was tough because he was hurting Cotto and winning rounds

Maybe Cotto is over rated