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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyUK View Post
    I'd rather see Hatton-Margarito at a catchweight. Two ruthless fighters who never stop coming forward and throw devestating bombs! What a fight that would make. I actually think Hatton could possibly do better against Margarito than Cotto did, we saw Cotto testing his chin all night long but never his body. If Ricky goes back to his body shot style that was seemingly non existant against Paulie he would stand more of a chance.

    Get it done.
    WTF?? Hatton wouldnt last 7 rounds i give him 10rnds tops because Margarito is a slow starter. but by the 5 maybe 6th round on Hatton will be lucky to survive.


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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Boxing history is littered with champions who were able to deal with more than one weight division. If Hatton is so great why is it that he can't deal with it? Or is it just that there are so many more good fighters at welterweight than there are at junior welterweight.
    Because he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.
    Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).

    If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.

    Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Cotto wins easily.

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    at any weight cotto wins

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    Boxing history is littered with champions who were able to deal with more than one weight division. If Hatton is so great why is it that he can't deal with it? Or is it just that there are so many more good fighters at welterweight than there are at junior welterweight.
    Because he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.
    Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).

    If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.

    Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
    Perhaps you are right, though I wouldn't have thought the size difference between junior welterweight and welterweight was all that huge, or insurmountable. He's taller than Cotto, for whatever that's worth. But if it is too much for him, then maybe he shouldn't be thinking about challenging DLH or Mayweather again.

    There's a huge difference in talent between the two divisions, it'd make a big difference to his legacy if he could be successful among the elite welterweights. He doesn't really seem to be challenged at JWW. But maybe he just have the drive to make that move. It'd probably take a lot of work. He certainly doesn't need the money.

    It'll be real interesting to see how PAC does at welterweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Hatton could not even go the distance with Mayweather power what is he going to do when Cotto hits him he does not have a chin like Margrito.
    Ricky Hatton was caught coming in, i don't care if you aren't a hard hitter. If you get caught coming in with a shot like that. 9 times out of 10 your going down.

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Hatton could not even go the distance with Mayweather power what is he going to do when Cotto hits him he does not have a chin like Margrito.
    Ricky Hatton was caught coming in, i don't care if you aren't a hard hitter. If you get caught coming in with a shot like that. 9 times out of 10 your going down.
    Paulie actually attempted the same type of shot on Hatton in the first round of their fight. The little left hook while stepping away from Hatton lunging in. Maybe that was part of the game plan but he just stopped trying.

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    What do you guys think?

    I know he will probably fight Dela Hoya, i would like to see Cotto v Hatton more than anything, at 147 i think Cotto is way to big maybe a catchweight, i think Cotto is big favourite but this fight would be way more appealing than a Hatton Dela Hoya fight, Dela Hoya is turning into a fraud, Pac Man now Hatton? He should be fighting Margorita,Cotto, Willaims or Forrest not Pac and Hatton.

    Hatton has been fighting at 140 for a dozen years. Is it unreasonable to expect him to move up in weight a few pounds? Hatton is 152-154 on fight night.

    That is more than Mayweather, for example, has EVER weighed.

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Hatton could not even go the distance with Mayweather power what is he going to do when Cotto hits him he does not have a chin like Margrito.
    Ricky Hatton was caught coming in, i don't care if you aren't a hard hitter. If you get caught coming in with a shot like that. 9 times out of 10 your going down.
    But in "Undefeated", Hatton was being hurt by FMJ even when he was not coming in. See round 8 as an example. Ricky was almost stopped in that round, and he was being beaten against the ropes....not coming in.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hhhh65TP14
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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Floyd read him like a book right from the word go mate, he was at the stage of writing the whole ending right about then. Hatton was fooked.
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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Cotto smashes Hatton at any weight

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Hi I'm DiOs and I toss steamy salads.....lots .Now ya cannot deny that one

    Cotto TKO's Hatton

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Yeah I think it would be a simular outcome to Pbf's fight at the moment.
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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Boxing history is littered with champions who were able to deal with more than one weight division. If Hatton is so great why is it that he can't deal with it? Or is it just that there are so many more good fighters at welterweight than there are at junior welterweight.
    Because he's far too small. He aint really a big light-welterweight. Sure he balloons up between fights but he doesn't add any lean mass. It's all body fat. I actually think he could probably have fought at 135 for some his career....quite comfortably.
    Add that to the fact that his style wouldn't allow him to use his main advantages at welter. His strength and punching power wouldn't have much effect on natural welters. His reach is also very very short so the jab goes out of the window (check how many he landed against Collazo and Mayweather - granted they were both slick fighters).

    If you look at the sort of champions who have won titles at different weight classes the majority of them have probably been supremely gifted athletes who rely on speed and technical ability (Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mosely etc) or they are fighters who have continually outgrown their own weight class.

    Ricky Hatton simply isn't that fighter. It doesn't make him any less of a champion....it just means he's always going to be one of those fighters who probably has to concentrate on their natural weight division.
    Perhaps you are right, though I wouldn't have thought the size difference between junior welterweight and welterweight was all that huge, or insurmountable. He's taller than Cotto, for whatever that's worth. But if it is too much for him, then maybe he shouldn't be thinking about challenging DLH or Mayweather again.

    There's a huge difference in talent between the two divisions, it'd make a big difference to his legacy if he could be successful among the elite welterweights. He doesn't really seem to be challenged at JWW. But maybe he just have the drive to make that move. It'd probably take a lot of work. He certainly doesn't need the money.

    It'll be real interesting to see how PAC does at welterweight.
    I agree on the talent aspect but i think on a level playing feel Hatton would fit in quite nicely with the talented bunch of fighters at welter (if the weight/size wasn't an issue). He wouldn't be able to dominate it like he does at 140 though.

    Come fight night he probs weighs around 150-153 ish whereas some guys at Welter are going to be at 160+. It's a massive difference especially if you don't have the edge in technical ability.

    I don't think he should fight Oscar or Mayweather again. Oscar = too big, Mayweather = too good (at any weight). I think Pac at 140 would be hugely competitive.

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    Default Re: Hatton Cotto at catchweight 143/144??

    I think Hatton has a chance against Cotto at welter.Cotto dont like being pressured,and has also hit the canvas against people who he should beaten easy. Hatton's problem is the amount of jabs he would have to eat,and these jabs would be a lot harder than he has been use to.

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