Margarito V Moseley signed!!!

[Taeth]

Forrest was a better boxer then Margrito was and they should not be compared i think Mosley can stand his ground he has the chin and punch resistance for it think people want to think Margrito is indestructable because of Cotto and maybe even Cintron but there differents between them and say a Mosley or a Oscar Dela Hoya is that they got durbilty something Margrito does not do well with say Clotty and Williams come to mind if Mosley moves and attacks the body he has a great chance to win and while were are on the subject Oscar Dela Hoya also have a great chance with Margrito he is better version of Cotto because Oscar Dela hoya is faster better foot work punchs harder and has a better chin.

No way friend.Are we to judge Oscar as of late?Look,the man is on the other side of it.I can not see him standing with Margarito and he is not faster consistently of hand right now than Cotto.I don't think Oscar wanted any part of Margarito but rest assured that if Cotto would have won....that fight would have happened.Oscar is cashing out now in Manny farce...he knows the deal!Call it risk/reward ratio but I call it Margarito takes Oscar in a grueling fight.

And how does Tony not do Durability well??When have you seen him fade down the stretch as opposed to getting stronger and coming on.

Mosley has a chance.But I do not think it is in his mindset to to back off and totally box it out now He wants to fight in there when he is hit.And I'm not even sure it is still his 'option' to be on the quick foot all night ?To win,he will have to step inside, and hurt Tony,head/body....rinse-repeat.Lesson learned from Cotto fight Imo.

Are you kidding me, I don't think Oscar is any indication of what would happen with Margarito, but he is considerably faster than Cotto, he is on a totally different level in handspeed and especially in foot speed. What Margarito against Santos, he doesn't deal with body shots well, the most obvious situation I've seen him floored is by a body shot. Margarito has a great chin nobody is denying that, but Mosley minus one moment is completely indestructible, he took the same shots from Cotto that Margarito did, and took them just as well. My question is when have you seen Margarito in against a guy like Winky WRight or Vernon Forest? I say they both badly outbox Margarito. Obviously I think if Mosley tries to outfight Margarito which is likely to happen he will lose, but if he uses a modicum of footwork, I think Antonio will have big problems. Cotto can't move well, when he use moves around the ring he doesn't move fluidly, but as some have noticed Margarito follows you, he doesn't cut off the ring at all. If he can consistently have Mosley against the ropes then he wins a UD, but if Mosley uses good lateral movement, comes in quick gets off a combinations, and then gets out, I think Shane wins.

You can't compare what happened against Shane when he fought Cotto, Wright, Forrest because they are all technically vastly superior to Margarito. Cotto is probably the least technically skilled out of the three and you all saw what he did to Margarito for six rounds, but even he won a close fihgt with Mosley, where Mosley's will was driving Cotto back by the end of it. Forrest and Winky beat a younger Mosley much easier. If Mosley instead of trying to beat Margarito up decides to throw a lot of punches ala Joe Calzaghe, I think Antonio will be fucked, otherwise Mosley gets badly dominated, his defense is his speed and reflexes and its hard to use those off the ropes.

[Mr140]

Think if Mosley goes to the body he while have success we all know he can throw good body shots and he not as fast but still has speed. As for the Oscar thing i think people see Margrito breacking him down but Oscar Dela Hoya even at this stage has the footwork, Power, Chin and boxing ability to take Margrito to school but thats just my thoughts o well.

[Taeth]

Moslet isnt' as fast? I thought the same, but watch him against Collazo. Him, Oscar De La Hoya, haven't so much lost speed as much as they can't throw as often with that speed. I agree Oscar would take both Margarito and Mosley to school. Mainly because Oscar is a lot bigger than Mosley, and he has that great jab, he can handle the size of Margarito a lot better, but Oscar had Margarito as sparring partner for years, and I think he knows its not a challenge, and thats why he hasn't faced Margarito, there is no point. Say what you will about Oscar only wanting money, but I say that is a farse. He has always wanted the hardest fight Mayweather, Hopkins, Trinidad, Mosley, Quartey, Vargas, even Pacquiao presents certain problems he hasn't delt with. I think he considers Margarito as a been there, done that.

[Mr140]

Well i agree they dont look slow but to me when Shane was at LW and when he fought WW and beat Oscar dela Hoya he seems so fast and ever hit was fast and he had power with it seems now still has speed but like you said he cant use it as much which is true be amazing if he could at 37. Same with Oscar i mean you just name his people he fought and some he lost and some he won but they were all close i mean i never saw a fight of his besides Bernard were he was dominated i know he lost to Mayweather but i give Oscar that was younger and boxed more a better chance to win against Mayweather but i not going to go into that. I just think its funney when people say Margrito going to break down Oscar Dela Hoya when i dont see how he planes to do it Oscar has him beat in alot of things and i guess peoples hate of the guy blind them to what he has.

[Mr140]

But there is one thing that i wish Mosely would of done you also i think feel the same with Jones i wish he would of learned the fundmental and box better because alot like Jones when he lost a step in his phsical gifts it effected him alot more then it could of if he would of learn some more. Because if you look at Oscar dela Hoya and Benard Hopkins they seem to make there style suit what they are now not what they were say ten years ago and thats why i think they have done better long term i think.

[Taeth]

I seriously think His dad ruined the best thing since Sugar Ray Robinson. Mosley could have been anything in the sport. He could have been good at anything, he has/had it all speed/power/balance, but his dad turned him into a robotic boxer-puncher who can't fight off the back foot, who has a horrible technical jab, and a guy who is lucky that Oscar played speed chess against him the first time. I don't understand how Mosley was so poor at the right cross and that jab, or how he lost to David Diaz as an amateur.

[Taeth]

Mayweather IMO had the most impressive performance against Oscar. He was way smaller. He outboxed OScar, made a very fast man miss almost every shot. Hopkins had a close fight with Oscar for the first few rounds, and not until he found his right hand did he begin to dominate Oscar. I think Mayweather had him figured out from the begining.

Also I havent' seen Oscar be so sharp defensively as he was against Mayweather in his entire career. I have watched every fight of his, and he never did the two things he did against MAyweather
1) He didn't try to outbox Mayweather like he did against Mosley, and
2) Even though he pressured Mayweather, he didn't sacrifice his defense which was most notable against Forbes in their fight, against Mayweather he knew Mayweather had a low output and would wait for Mayweather to throw something, or follow behind the jab, but once again Mayweather was able to counter him very effectively with the right hand.

[Mr140]

Well he was in love with his power as a LW and he got into trying to knock out bigger guys in Forrest and Wright but he still acommplished somthing with the titles in LW WW and LWM and also wins with Oscar Dela Hoya as for the Mayweather fight think he should of keep to jabing and stop chasing Mayweather I think Oscar of young could of stayed away form Mayweather and used his jab and speed to stay away i just think Oscar Dela Hoya when he was younger would stand a better shot.

[TheChosenOne]

im a big mosley fan but i dont think he got much of a chance if he fights a cotto fight

we are going to see if shane can pull all the stops

[Spicoli]

Forrest was a better boxer then Margrito was and they should not be compared i think Mosley can stand his ground he has the chin and punch resistance for it think people want to think Margrito is indestructable because of Cotto and maybe even Cintron but there differents between them and say a Mosley or a Oscar Dela Hoya is that they got durbilty something Margrito does not do well with say Clotty and Williams come to mind if Mosley moves and attacks the body he has a great chance to win and while were are on the subject Oscar Dela Hoya also have a great chance with Margrito he is better version of Cotto because Oscar Dela hoya is faster better foot work punchs harder and has a better chin.

No way friend.Are we to judge Oscar as of late?Look,the man is on the other side of it.I can not see him standing with Margarito and he is not faster consistently of hand right now than Cotto.I don't think Oscar wanted any part of Margarito but rest assured that if Cotto would have won....that fight would have happened.Oscar is cashing out now in Manny farce...he knows the deal!Call it risk/reward ratio but I call it Margarito takes Oscar in a grueling fight.

And how does Tony not do Durability well??When have you seen him fade down the stretch as opposed to getting stronger and coming on.

Mosley has a chance.But I do not think it is in his mindset to to back off and totally box it out now He wants to fight in there when he is hit.And I'm not even sure it is still his 'option' to be on the quick foot all night ?To win,he will have to step inside, and hurt Tony,head/body....rinse-repeat.Lesson learned from Cotto fight Imo.

Are you kidding me, I don't think Oscar is any indication of what would happen with Margarito, but he is considerably faster than Cotto, he is on a totally different level in handspeed and especially in foot speed. What Margarito against Santos, he doesn't deal with body shots well, the most obvious situation I've seen him floored is by a body shot. Margarito has a great chin nobody is denying that, but Mosley minus one moment is completely indestructible, he took the same shots from Cotto that Margarito did, and took them just as well. My question is when have you seen Margarito in against a guy like Winky WRight or Vernon Forest? I say they both badly outbox Margarito. Obviously I think if Mosley tries to outfight Margarito which is likely to happen he will lose, but if he uses a modicum of footwork, I think Antonio will have big problems. Cotto can't move well, when he use moves around the ring he doesn't move fluidly, but as some have noticed Margarito follows you, he doesn't cut off the ring at all. If he can consistently have Mosley against the ropes then he wins a UD, but if Mosley uses good lateral movement, comes in quick gets off a combinations, and then gets out, I think Shane wins.

You can't compare what happened against Shane when he fought Cotto, Wright, Forrest because they are all technically vastly superior to Margarito. Cotto is probably the least technically skilled out of the three and you all saw what he did to Margarito for six rounds, but even he won a close fihgt with Mosley, where Mosley's will was driving Cotto back by the end of it. Forrest and Winky beat a younger Mosley much easier. If Mosley instead of trying to beat Margarito up decides to throw a lot of punches ala Joe Calzaghe, I think Antonio will be fucked, otherwise Mosley gets badly dominated, his defense is his speed and reflexes and its hard to use those off the ropes.

Me kid?Surely you jest .But Yeh,blame it on the led paint but at this exact point in their respected careers,I believe Cotto has a bit faster and more accurate hands than DLH.....I'll grant you foot speed.Oscar can still reset and shift position better than an at times flat footed Cotto but I see hesitancy in Oscars shot selection,thinking too much.

Tony has been hit to the body but most recently has shown big increase in his ability to defend his body,tucking his elbows in but still getting of inside uppercuts and short shots.They say you can shake off some head shots but the body is an entirely different thing......When Tony was dropped vs.Juan Soberanes I believe,Ten years ago,it was a liver shot from which he rose and went on to win a descision.BTW....Mosley was not only dropped by Forrest in the second round 2 off head shots but was himself hurt big time to the body about the 10th round of that fight.

I don't really see the relevance in Tony vs. Forrest and Wright in hypothetical's.I'm sure a Paul Williams is similar to A Forrest in height,range and the like but that was hardy a blow out for Williams.For Mosley in those fights he was also acting as the punch first aggressor mostly....as opposed to what would suit him best.I do not think Mosley has the reflex mobility he once had,it is not in his mind set to smartly stick & move box at this point rather than his aggression & pride getting the better of his judgment and he squares up with Tony,swapping shots.Not good.Mosley is more solid than Cotto...'thicker' but he must move here after sitting on some hard shots.Not like Cotto...who at times seemed to be 'punching from the backseat',trying to get out too fast?

Mosley is a great.A solid professonal that has given everything of himself to the fans.Glad this one is coming off But there is an emmence difference to what Mosley may need to do as opposed to what he will be able to do now.

[Bomp]

Shane doesn't have the stamina to stick and move for 12 rounds. His punches didn't bother Cotto as much as everyone thought they would, and it was Shane who had to adjust his game in that fight from the direct approach.

as for Oscar, prime for prime he UD's Marg and probably KO's Cotto late. An oscar who cant deal with tiny Steve Forbes gets dominated by Marg and struggles with Cotto. Oscar not fighting Marg because he thinks it's to easy compared to Pac is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard Taeth say (who is a knowledgable poster).