Calzaghe ducked the best?

[Tysonbruno]

I give him credit for beating a young unbeaten fighter in Kessler and if he went to the states and fought another young unbeaten fighter in Dawson i would give him credit again. Because he went to the state and played it pretty safe really fighting 2 old men in Hopkins and Jones i know Hopkins did a job on Pavlik but he is still an old Hopkins and then when he went to Denmark and Germany it was to fight McIntyre and Veit a man he had previously stopped in 1 round all pretty safe bets for travelling to fight really. he fought a faded old weight drained Eubank for the Vacant WBO title then he fought bums and former champs some only a few fights from retirement then he fought Lacy which made him a unified champ but then followed this with Bika and Manfredo Peter Manfredo this was a complete joke even the stoppage was a joke then he fought his best fight in my opinion Kessler but then followed this with Hopkins then Roy Jones who turned out to be more washed up than most first thought. He should have been fighting fighters in the world top ten when he was Super middle champ i think he wasted his best years ive said it this already but Frank Warren said himself that Joe pulled out of 10-12 good fights he lined him up he also said that if it weren't for himself and Joe's dad he was gunna pull out vs Lacy. Joe also said in 2006 that he dont need places like Las Vegas and Madison Square Garden they don't interest him then on 24/7 he's saying things like this is what its all about what better way to go out in the Garden the mecca of boxing. Ducked the best ?? to a certain degree yes but more right place right time or coming along at wrong time if he had come along when their was Eubank,Benn,Collins,Toney and Jones in the Super middleweights we could all be saying different things or maybe not talking about him at all.

[bambamdaddio]

I give him credit for beating a young unbeaten fighter in Kessler and if he went to the states and fought another young unbeaten fighter in Dawson i would give him credit again. Because he went to the state and played it pretty safe really fighting 2 old men in Hopkins and Jones i know Hopkins did a job on Pavlik but he is still an old Hopkins and then when he went to Denmark and Germany it was to fight McIntyre and Veit a man he had previously stopped in 1 round all pretty safe bets for travelling to fight really. he fought a faded old weight drained Eubank for the Vacant WBO title then he fought bums and former champs some only a few fights from retirement then he fought Lacy which made him a unified champ but then followed this with Bika and Manfredo Peter Manfredo this was a complete joke even the stoppage was a joke then he fought his best fight in my opinion Kessler but then followed this with Hopkins then Roy Jones who turned out to be more washed up than most first thought. He should have been fighting fighters in the world top ten when he was Super middle champ i think he wasted his best years ive said it this already but Frank Warren said himself that Joe pulled out of 10-12 good fights he lined him up he also said that if it weren't for himself and Joe's dad he was gunna pull out vs Lacy. Joe also said in 2006 that he dont need places like Las Vegas and Madison Square Garden they don't interest him then on 24/7 he's saying things like this is what its all about what better way to go out in the Garden the mecca of boxing. Ducked the best ?? to a certain degree yes but more right place right time or coming along at wrong time if he had come along when their was Eubank,Benn,Collins,Toney and Jones in the Super middleweights we could all be saying different things or maybe not talking about him at all.

For Lacy he had a knackered hand, thats the only reason he nearly pulled out ....

& rightly or wrongly with Joe, I think he really believed he was the best & that they should come to him ... but its the round in circles thing again some may agree yet some dont ... opinions again aint it bud ... the re match with Veit he was furious over but had no choice I think Veit had become mandatory at the time & refused to step aside for Joe to take a bigger fight which off hand escapes me ....

But interesting to note that Nigel Benn wished Joe had been around in his day too .. but also went on to say he thinks he woulda still come out on top of the pile tho...

With Joe people will always be divided, but good to see you as a none JC fan not sounding spiteful which is seeming to be the pattern with some of late...

Lol ... but I wrote a message to another member the other night re Joe C, & I was high lighting the comparison of the Monty Python Witch sketch re Joe ...


"He's a witch ...

"No Im not"

"Well ya look like a witch, youve got a big nose & pointed hat",

"Yes but they put them on me"....

"Well did you" ....

"Well yes,we did"

"But hes still a witch so burn him anyway lol"...


Im sure ya get my drift bud ...& I am in no way implying your post does the above but there are a group of Witch hunters out there that just wanna burn Joe anyway..

[Tysonbruno]

I give him credit for beating a young unbeaten fighter in Kessler and if he went to the states and fought another young unbeaten fighter in Dawson i would give him credit again. Because he went to the state and played it pretty safe really fighting 2 old men in Hopkins and Jones i know Hopkins did a job on Pavlik but he is still an old Hopkins and then when he went to Denmark and Germany it was to fight McIntyre and Veit a man he had previously stopped in 1 round all pretty safe bets for travelling to fight really. he fought a faded old weight drained Eubank for the Vacant WBO title then he fought bums and former champs some only a few fights from retirement then he fought Lacy which made him a unified champ but then followed this with Bika and Manfredo Peter Manfredo this was a complete joke even the stoppage was a joke then he fought his best fight in my opinion Kessler but then followed this with Hopkins then Roy Jones who turned out to be more washed up than most first thought. He should have been fighting fighters in the world top ten when he was Super middle champ i think he wasted his best years ive said it this already but Frank Warren said himself that Joe pulled out of 10-12 good fights he lined him up he also said that if it weren't for himself and Joe's dad he was gunna pull out vs Lacy. Joe also said in 2006 that he dont need places like Las Vegas and Madison Square Garden they don't interest him then on 24/7 he's saying things like this is what its all about what better way to go out in the Garden the mecca of boxing. Ducked the best ?? to a certain degree yes but more right place right time or coming along at wrong time if he had come along when their was Eubank,Benn,Collins,Toney and Jones in the Super middleweights we could all be saying different things or maybe not talking about him at all.

For Lacy he had a knackered hand, thats the only reason he nearly pulled out ....

& rightly or wrongly with Joe, I think he really believed he was the best & that they should come to him ... but its the round in circles thing again some may agree yet some dont ... opinions again aint it bud ... the re match with Veit he was furious over but had no choice I think Veit had become mandatory at the time & refused to step aside for Joe to take a bigger fight which off hand escapes me ....

But interesting to note that Nigel Benn wished Joe had been around in his day too .. but also went on to say he thinks he woulda still come out on top of the pile tho...

With Joe people will always be divided, but good to see you as a none JC fan not sounding spiteful which is seeming to be the pattern with some of late...

Lol ... but I wrote a message to another member the other night re Joe C, & I was high lighting the comparison of the Monty Python Witch sketch re Joe ...


"He's a witch ...

"No Im not"

"Well ya look like a witch, youve got a big nose & pointed hat",

"Yes but they put them on me"....

"Well did you" ....

"Well yes,we did"

"But hes still a witch so burn him anyway lol"...


Im sure ya get my drift bud ...& I am in no way implying your post does the above but there are a group of Witch hunters out there that just wanna burn Joe anyway..

For the record it was Calzaghe's fight with Brian Magee that Mario Veit stopped