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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    Thats about the most accurate list you can find

    Hatton above cotto, Vasquez....

    Definitely...Miguel got outclassed by a guy who was barely in the top 10 compared to ricky who got beat by the very best in the world

    And Vasquez already has a good few errors on his record to consider him completely unstopable!!
    Israel Vasquez is considered top 5 P4P by Ring Magazine, and by 95 percent of fans. Having him at number 8 is laughable just laughable. All of his losses except for the Rafael Marquez one were years ago, you obviously don't know much about Israel Vasquez.

    And you have just looked at his record seen those losses and rated him lower based on those losses, which is flawed logic. When you have to take into account the opposition he has been facing, and his opposition in the past few years has been very strong, and the fact he has only 1 loss in years despite the strength of his opposition lately, speaks volumes.

    You have no Ivan Calderon, Rafael Marquez. Miguel Cotto was top 5 P4P at max so why has he only dropped two places ?

    Ricky Hatton may have a good record stats wise, but what about his opposition ? Ricky Hatton has only fought 3 fighters who i consider world class. Luis Collazo, Kostya Tszyu, Floyd Mayweather.

    Please don't insult my intelligence by saying thats the most accurate list i'll find, its actually one of the most poor top 10 P4P lists i've seen on this forum in quite some time.
    How are Malignaggi and Castillo not world class? Weren't both rated by Ring magazine as number 2 behind Hatton before he bashed them up?

    Apparently Castillo can only be classed as world class up to the hatton fight at which point he gave in because he couldnt be bothered any more!!

    And cotto softened up paulie for hatton

    Seriously the hatton bias on here is unbelievable!!!!!!!!
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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Israel Vasquez is considered top 5 P4P by Ring Magazine, and by 95 percent of fans. Having him at number 8 is laughable just laughable. All of his losses except for the Rafael Marquez one were years ago, you obviously don't know much about Israel Vasquez.

    And you have just looked at his record seen those losses and rated him lower based on those losses, which is flawed logic. When you have to take into account the opposition he has been facing, and his opposition in the past few years has been very strong, and the fact he has only 1 loss in years despite the strength of his opposition lately, speaks volumes.

    You have no Ivan Calderon, Rafael Marquez. Miguel Cotto was top 5 P4P at max so why has he only dropped two places ?

    Ricky Hatton may have a good record stats wise, but what about his opposition ? Ricky Hatton has only fought 3 fighters who i consider world class. Luis Collazo, Kostya Tszyu, Floyd Mayweather.

    Please don't insult my intelligence by saying thats the most accurate list i'll find, its actually one of the most poor top 10 P4P lists i've seen on this forum in quite some time.
    How are Malignaggi and Castillo not world class? Weren't both rated by Ring magazine as number 2 behind Hatton before he bashed them up?

    Apparently Castillo can only be classed as world class up to the hatton fight at which point he gave in because he couldnt be bothered any more!!

    And cotto softened up paulie for hatton

    Seriously the hatton bias on here is unbelievable!!!!!!!!
    nobody here is being bias.

    i give credit to hatton for fighting the best in his division but the divison is kinda weak though. and paulie isnt exactly a threat to hatton even though i thought he would get a decision.

    but ur p4p list is gay, u have Hatton over Vic and Vic actually beat a fighter that was actually on the P4P LIST.

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post

    How are Malignaggi and Castillo not world class? Weren't both rated by Ring magazine as number 2 behind Hatton before he bashed them up?

    Apparently Castillo can only be classed as world class up to the hatton fight at which point he gave in because he couldnt be bothered any more!!

    And cotto softened up paulie for hatton

    Seriously the hatton bias on here is unbelievable!!!!!!!!
    nobody here is being bias.

    i give credit to hatton for fighting the best in his division but the divison is kinda weak though. and paulie isnt exactly a threat to hatton even though i thought he would get a decision.

    but ur p4p list is gay, u have Hatton over Vic and Vic actually beat a fighter that was actually on the P4P LIST.
    You know how contadicting that sounds ?

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post

    How are Malignaggi and Castillo not world class? Weren't both rated by Ring magazine as number 2 behind Hatton before he bashed them up?

    Apparently Castillo can only be classed as world class up to the hatton fight at which point he gave in because he couldnt be bothered any more!!

    And cotto softened up paulie for hatton

    Seriously the hatton bias on here is unbelievable!!!!!!!!
    nobody here is being bias.

    i give credit to hatton for fighting the best in his division but the divison is kinda weak though. and paulie isnt exactly a threat to hatton even though i thought he would get a decision.

    but ur p4p list is gay, u have Hatton over Vic and Vic actually beat a fighter that was actually on the P4P LIST.
    Kosta was P4P number 2 when Hatton fought him

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
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    Apparently Castillo can only be classed as world class up to the hatton fight at which point he gave in because he couldnt be bothered any more!!

    And cotto softened up paulie for hatton

    Seriously the hatton bias on here is unbelievable!!!!!!!!
    nobody here is being bias.

    i give credit to hatton for fighting the best in his division but the divison is kinda weak though. and paulie isnt exactly a threat to hatton even though i thought he would get a decision.

    but ur p4p list is gay, u have Hatton over Vic and Vic actually beat a fighter that was actually on the P4P LIST.
    Kosta was P4P number 2 when Hatton fought him
    i get wat ur saying lefty but thats in the past and doesnt count anymore. and after Mayweather he wasnt on the list anymore. it all depends on wat you have done lately.

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post

    nobody here is being bias.

    i give credit to hatton for fighting the best in his division but the divison is kinda weak though. and paulie isnt exactly a threat to hatton even though i thought he would get a decision.

    but ur p4p list is gay, u have Hatton over Vic and Vic actually beat a fighter that was actually on the P4P LIST.
    Kosta was P4P number 2 when Hatton fought him
    i get wat ur saying lefty but thats in the past and doesnt count anymore. and after Mayweather he wasnt on the list anymore. it all depends on wat you have done lately.
    I diagree completely. P4P list are based on what you've done throughout your career, not recently. If it was recently wouldn't David Haye be top 10 P4P ?

    Remember when Floyd Mayweather Jr was P4P number 1 not so long ago?

    Well I remember people saying ahh Ricky Hatton is a 140 pounder and ODLH is past it, Carlos Baldomir is one dimensional etc (They are all true btw), Pac should be number 1.

    Well people used his wins over Chavez, Castillo, Corrales etc to say he deserves number 1 as he had great wins from years ago.

    You can't base P4P lists over recent perofrmances, it's what they've done THROUGHOUT there whole career since they became pro.

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post

    Kosta was P4P number 2 when Hatton fought him
    i get wat ur saying lefty but thats in the past and doesnt count anymore. and after Mayweather he wasnt on the list anymore. it all depends on wat you have done lately.
    I diagree completely. P4P list are based on what you've done throughout your career, not recently. If it was recently wouldn't David Haye be top 10 P4P ?

    Remember when Floyd Mayweather Jr was P4P number 1 not so long ago?

    Well I remember people saying ahh Ricky Hatton is a 140 pounder and ODLH is past it, Carlos Baldomir is one dimensional etc (They are all true btw), Pac should be number 1.

    Well people used his wins over Chavez, Castillo, Corrales etc to say he deserves number 1 as he had great wins from years ago.

    You can't base P4P lists over recent perofrmances, it's what they've done THROUGHOUT there whole career since they became pro.
    so because Hatton beat Kosta and then lost to PBF and then beat Paulie he should be ahead of Vic.

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    • 1. Manny Pacquiao

      Country: Philippines

      Record: 47-3-2 (36 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 260

      Titles: WBC

      Next Fight: 12/6/2008 vs. Oscar De La Hoya
    • 2. Juan Manuel Marquez

      Country: Mexico

      Record: 49-4-1 (36 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 89

      Titles: The Ring
    • 3. Joe Calzaghe

      Country: Wales

      Record: 46-0-0 (32 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 143

      Titles: The Ring
    • 4. Bernard Hopkins

      Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)

      Record: 49-5-1 (32 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 129
    • 5. Israel Vazquez

      Country: Mexico

      Record: 43-4-0 (31 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 69

      Titles: WBC, The Ring
    • 6. Antonio Margarito

      Country: Mexico

      Record: 37-5-0 (27 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 18
    • 7. Rafael Marquez

      Country: Mexico

      Record: 37-5-0 (33 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 27
    • 8. Miguel Cotto

      Country: Puerto Rico

      Record: 32-1-0 (26 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 77
    • 9. Ivan Calderon

      Country: Puerto Rico

      Record: 32-0-0 (6 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 6

      Titles: WBO, The Ring
    • 10. Ricky Hatton

      Country: England

      Record: 45-1-0 (32 KOs)

      Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1

      Titles: The Ring

    Thats the P4P i can't see anything wrong with that and Hatton is back in it good stuff.

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post

    i get wat ur saying lefty but thats in the past and doesnt count anymore. and after Mayweather he wasnt on the list anymore. it all depends on wat you have done lately.
    I diagree completely. P4P list are based on what you've done throughout your career, not recently. If it was recently wouldn't David Haye be top 10 P4P ?

    Remember when Floyd Mayweather Jr was P4P number 1 not so long ago?

    Well I remember people saying ahh Ricky Hatton is a 140 pounder and ODLH is past it, Carlos Baldomir is one dimensional etc (They are all true btw), Pac should be number 1.

    Well people used his wins over Chavez, Castillo, Corrales etc to say he deserves number 1 as he had great wins from years ago.

    You can't base P4P lists over recent perofrmances, it's what they've done THROUGHOUT there whole career since they became pro.
    so because Hatton beat Kosta and then lost to PBF and then beat Paulie he should be ahead of Vic.
    Yep.

    Vic got destoryed by a mere contender at the time Nonito Donaire.

    Hatton got beat by the best boxer on the planet.

    Who has Vic beat in higher regard than Hatton ?

    I'd rather have Kosta Tszyu on my record that Cristian Mijares WITHOUT DOUBT.

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    Considering most fans compile their lists based on acomplishments and quality of opposition, Hatton definitely gets a raw deal in the P4P lists, not just by most fans but The Ring itself.

    His last 8 fights have all been against top 10 Ring ranked fighters at 140 and 147. Including three top 10 P4P-ers.

    That pisses all over certain other fighters that qualify.
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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Considering most fans compile their lists based on acomplishments and quality of opposition, Hatton definitely gets a raw deal in the P4P lists, not just by most fans but The Ring itself.

    His last 8 fights have all been against top 10 Ring ranked fighters at 140 and 147. Including three top 10 P4P-ers.

    That pisses all over certain other fighters that qualify.
    To true Fenster that is a good FACT.

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    Default Re: Updated P4P Top 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragos Bitch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Considering most fans compile their lists based on acomplishments and quality of opposition, Hatton definitely gets a raw deal in the P4P lists, not just by most fans but The Ring itself.

    His last 8 fights have all been against top 10 Ring ranked fighters at 140 and 147. Including three top 10 P4P-ers.

    That pisses all over certain other fighters that qualify.
    To true Fenster that is a good FACT.
    I was making a serious point. Didn't want the "fact" to dilute it. Cheers for pointing it out though. Fact.
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