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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I don't know, I just get so cynical thinking about this fight. Oscar is such a phoney it's really hard to take anything he says seriously. Every single fight he needs to make some great change in his camp which "brings that fire back to his belly..." It's a pile of BS if you ask me, the only deciding factor in this fight is whether Oscar actually goes for it or if he plans to make Manny look good lasting 12 or even lose to him in order to cash in on some future matchup. I still think DLH's left hook is just way to much for Manny to be able to take repeatedly, and there's no reason Oscar shouldn't be able to land unless he has faded immensly for this fight alone. If he approaches this fight like he did Mayorga it SHOULD be a massacre, far as I can envision. Honestly though, I think it's likely he won't. I doubt Oscar really cares much about how people view his legacy anymore or any of that jazz. He is strictly a businessman who fights to better his own promotional company, and in that sense I do have the utmost respect for his savy. As a fan though, I really don't wanna see this turn out to be a sparring session.
    That's true, he does seem to say something like that for every fight. When he had Floyd Sr. back, that was great, when he got Roach, that was the key.

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    I'm hoping for a double KO.

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    I think people are idiots for thinking this is a walk in the park for either guy. Even if Oscar manhandles Pacquiao, he will need to train as hard as he ever has to ensure that he does. People don't understand that, they criticize guys like Mayweather for fighting Hatton, but they don't see that he was sparring 20 rounds against Lovemore N'Dou and Carlos Baldomir nearly everyday leading up to it. I don't think its what happens in the ring that proves ones greatness, but what they do out of it to prepare themselves.

    Benitez was a great fighter, but I will never forgive him for training 11 days to fight Leonard. Or the two weeks he prepared in fighting Hearns. I look on guys like that with distain.

    I don't care who you are fighting I would expect you to train as hard as possible for the fight. These guys are getting the top dollar to fight at their best. Oscar knows that Pacquiao is a live underdog even if ignorant people don't, and he knows realizes that size isn't all that matters. I mean he went up to fight Bernard Hopkins who was way bigger than him. He fought the dangerous Tito Trinidad in his prime, he fought Mosley twice, he fought Whitaker, he fought Mayweather. He's foughten both the bigger and smaller guys, and I think he realizes that Pacquiao is going to be a lot bigger and stronger than we have ever seen him, and he has the heart of lion.

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    So he is training hard, that is what they are paid to do. ODH will have to retire out of embarrassment if he looses and that is really why he is putting in the hard work.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    So he is training hard, that is what they are paid to do. ODH will have to retire out of embarrassment if he looses and that is really why he is putting in the hard work.
    Missing the point,this is the most focused Ive ever seen him,my only concern is that it may be too late in his career. I actually respect his regimen this time,usually I cant even be bothered to watch his fights. He is well and far from a fighter Im a fan of. But this time he's doing everything right for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I don't know, I just get so cynical thinking about this fight. Oscar is such a phoney it's really hard to take anything he says seriously. Every single fight he needs to make some great change in his camp which "brings that fire back to his belly..." It's a pile of BS if you ask me, the only deciding factor in this fight is whether Oscar actually goes for it or if he plans to make Manny look good lasting 12 or even lose to him in order to cash in on some future matchup. I still think DLH's left hook is just way to much for Manny to be able to take repeatedly, and there's no reason Oscar shouldn't be able to land unless he has faded immensly for this fight alone. If he approaches this fight like he did Mayorga it SHOULD be a massacre, far as I can envision. Honestly though, I think it's likely he won't. I doubt Oscar really cares much about how people view his legacy anymore or any of that jazz. He is strictly a businessman who fights to better his own promotional company, and in that sense I do have the utmost respect for his savy. As a fan though, I really don't wanna see this turn out to be a sparring session.
    Good post!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragos Bitch View Post
    Oscar fought Mayweather and lost then he fights small Forbes then Mayweather retires so he chases Pac who is a smaller man at 5ft 6inch last fighting at his highest weight 135lbs Oscar is a natural 154lbs fighter as been as far as 160lbs and is 5ft 11inch and if he wins he wants another small man Hatton who is a natural 140lbs fighter and 5ft 6inch he is just after the money and if he beats Pac he won't be P4P#1 Oscar should stop being a bully boy chasing these smaller men for there names and fight Magarito,Cotto or Paul Williams.
    I've always loved De La Hoya but I'm really starting to dislike him more and more I hear him spew bullsh*t and pick on smaller people. I understand he's always fought the best but I'm judging him about what he's done lately not what he's done years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    I want this clear,I NEVER root for DLH, ever.
    But this time out of the gate he's doing everything Id want to see to make me think he's dead serious about this fight.
    Dundee is costing him a serious penny alone
    Nacho dont work for free either
    And theres nothing to do in Big Bear but ski or train
    Oscar doesn't exactly have financial problems either. Him paying for Dundee and Nacho's help is like me buying a pack of gum from the corner store.

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    Personally,I just wish the little Drama queen would go away already.Maybe after his carnival act with Pac,lets hope anyway

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    This is one of those fights that I care less about. I wouldn't pay a dollars if they where fighting in my living room.

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    Oscar has a big ego, boxers have to.

    It no coincidence in 3 fights he has fought the top 2 p4p fighters, the 1 in between designed to warm him up for a rematch with the 1st and he is in control of the ring magazine.

    Hes after a top spot in the p4p rankings.

    He doesnt need money and calls the shots on any fight he has so he just wants the limelight.

    Everyone complains about Oscar but who else could draw a small fighter up that much in weight, if nothing else these fights are entertaining and thats what professional boxing is supposed to be.

    Hopkins is only just finding that out at 43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think people are idiots for thinking this is a walk in the park for either guy. Even if Oscar manhandles Pacquiao, he will need to train as hard as he ever has to ensure that he does. People don't understand that, they criticize guys like Mayweather for fighting Hatton, but they don't see that he was sparring 20 rounds against Lovemore N'Dou and Carlos Baldomir nearly everyday leading up to it. I don't think its what happens in the ring that proves ones greatness, but what they do out of it to prepare themselves.

    Benitez was a great fighter, but I will never forgive him for training 11 days to fight Leonard. Or the two weeks he prepared in fighting Hearns. I look on guys like that with distain.

    I don't care who you are fighting I would expect you to train as hard as possible for the fight. These guys are getting the top dollar to fight at their best. Oscar knows that Pacquiao is a live underdog even if ignorant people don't, and he knows realizes that size isn't all that matters. I mean he went up to fight Bernard Hopkins who was way bigger than him. He fought the dangerous Tito Trinidad in his prime, he fought Mosley twice, he fought Whitaker, he fought Mayweather. He's foughten both the bigger and smaller guys, and I think he realizes that Pacquiao is going to be a lot bigger and stronger than we have ever seen him, and he has the heart of lion.
    I hadn't heard that about Wilfred. The guy was really a natural, how great could he have been had he trained hard? I've heard that about other fighters like Vince Phillips didn't take his training all that seriously either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think people are idiots for thinking this is a walk in the park for either guy. Even if Oscar manhandles Pacquiao, he will need to train as hard as he ever has to ensure that he does. People don't understand that, they criticize guys like Mayweather for fighting Hatton, but they don't see that he was sparring 20 rounds against Lovemore N'Dou and Carlos Baldomir nearly everyday leading up to it. I don't think its what happens in the ring that proves ones greatness, but what they do out of it to prepare themselves.

    Benitez was a great fighter, but I will never forgive him for training 11 days to fight Leonard. Or the two weeks he prepared in fighting Hearns. I look on guys like that with distain.

    I don't care who you are fighting I would expect you to train as hard as possible for the fight. These guys are getting the top dollar to fight at their best. Oscar knows that Pacquiao is a live underdog even if ignorant people don't, and he knows realizes that size isn't all that matters. I mean he went up to fight Bernard Hopkins who was way bigger than him. He fought the dangerous Tito Trinidad in his prime, he fought Mosley twice, he fought Whitaker, he fought Mayweather. He's foughten both the bigger and smaller guys, and I think he realizes that Pacquiao is going to be a lot bigger and stronger than we have ever seen him, and he has the heart of lion.
    I hadn't heard that about Wilfred. The guy was really a natural, how great could he have been had he trained hard? I've heard that about other fighters like Vince Phillips didn't take his training all that seriously either.
    Yep.I always see alot of slights against Phillips,how he was a journeyman lucky vs. Tszyu but Phillips was a quality fighter who's darkside and demons took a HUGE toll on him realizing full potential.His hard chin and wrecking ball right got him out of some jams.Had some nice amatuer exp. as well.

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    Oscar is "picking on" smaller opponents?! I love how some people always blame Oscar for everything. Like someone had to put a gun to Pac's head and say "fight Oscar or else." Pac had plenty of big, lucrative fights at 130 and 135...but guess what, like ANY fighter he realizes the $$$ potential of fighting Oscar. Oscar, for better or worse, is the ATM machine for boxing. It takes two to tango. And while i agree that BOTH fighters should be ashamed of themselves for taking this fight instead of dealing with people in their own weight class...you cannot single out Oscar for the blame. And even if you are an Oscar hater...i don't see how you can criticize the man's resume...he has consistently fought the very best throughout his career. He fought Forbes as a warm up for the Floyd rematch (trying to find someone who is slick and hard to hit to prepare him). Before that he fought the p4p king in Floyd...and i wouldn't exactly say he was picking on the smaller man in that fight. So now he will fight Pac and maybe Hatton in the future...not the best fights i agree. But i bet almost everyone on this board will watch the Pac fight and later maybe the Hatton fight. Right now boxing is struggling to bring in PPV revenue. So i'm not going to hate on Oscar for being one of the few fighters left who can generate interest and money for the sport. If you don't like the matchups...don't pay and see them...simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Oscar is "picking on" smaller opponents?! I love how some people always blame Oscar for everything. Like someone had to put a gun to Pac's head and say "fight Oscar or else." Pac had plenty of big, lucrative fights at 130 and 135...but guess what, like ANY fighter he realizes the $$$ potential of fighting Oscar. Oscar, for better or worse, is the ATM machine for boxing. It takes two to tango. And while i agree that BOTH fighters should be ashamed of themselves for taking this fight instead of dealing with people in their own weight class...you cannot single out Oscar for the blame. And even if you are an Oscar hater...i don't see how you can criticize the man's resume...he has consistently fought the very best throughout his career. He fought Forbes as a warm up for the Floyd rematch (trying to find someone who is slick and hard to hit to prepare him). Before that he fought the p4p king in Floyd...and i wouldn't exactly say he was picking on the smaller man in that fight. So now he will fight Pac and maybe Hatton in the future...not the best fights i agree. But i bet almost everyone on this board will watch the Pac fight and later maybe the Hatton fight. Right now boxing is struggling to bring in PPV revenue. So i'm not going to hate on Oscar for being one of the few fighters left who can generate interest and money for the sport. If you don't like the matchups...don't pay and see them...simple as that.

    I can totally agree with that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Oscar is "picking on" smaller opponents?! I love how some people always blame Oscar for everything. Like someone had to put a gun to Pac's head and say "fight Oscar or else." Pac had plenty of big, lucrative fights at 130 and 135...but guess what, like ANY fighter he realizes the $$$ potential of fighting Oscar. Oscar, for better or worse, is the ATM machine for boxing. It takes two to tango. And while i agree that BOTH fighters should be ashamed of themselves for taking this fight instead of dealing with people in their own weight class...you cannot single out Oscar for the blame. And even if you are an Oscar hater...i don't see how you can criticize the man's resume...he has consistently fought the very best throughout his career. He fought Forbes as a warm up for the Floyd rematch (trying to find someone who is slick and hard to hit to prepare him). Before that he fought the p4p king in Floyd...and i wouldn't exactly say he was picking on the smaller man in that fight. So now he will fight Pac and maybe Hatton in the future...not the best fights i agree. But i bet almost everyone on this board will watch the Pac fight and later maybe the Hatton fight. Right now boxing is struggling to bring in PPV revenue. So i'm not going to hate on Oscar for being one of the few fighters left who can generate interest and money for the sport. If you don't like the matchups...don't pay and see them...simple as that.

    I can totally agree with that...
    I have to say I agree with that,lets face it,fighting DLH is the boxing equivalent of backing up the Brinks Truck.
    Direct and Dish are both putting on extra staff for this fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think people are idiots for thinking this is a walk in the park for either guy. Even if Oscar manhandles Pacquiao, he will need to train as hard as he ever has to ensure that he does. People don't understand that, they criticize guys like Mayweather for fighting Hatton, but they don't see that he was sparring 20 rounds against Lovemore N'Dou and Carlos Baldomir nearly everyday leading up to it. I don't think its what happens in the ring that proves ones greatness, but what they do out of it to prepare themselves.

    Benitez was a great fighter, but I will never forgive him for training 11 days to fight Leonard. Or the two weeks he prepared in fighting Hearns. I look on guys like that with distain.

    I don't care who you are fighting I would expect you to train as hard as possible for the fight. These guys are getting the top dollar to fight at their best. Oscar knows that Pacquiao is a live underdog even if ignorant people don't, and he knows realizes that size isn't all that matters. I mean he went up to fight Bernard Hopkins who was way bigger than him. He fought the dangerous Tito Trinidad in his prime, he fought Mosley twice, he fought Whitaker, he fought Mayweather. He's foughten both the bigger and smaller guys, and I think he realizes that Pacquiao is going to be a lot bigger and stronger than we have ever seen him, and he has the heart of lion.

    I don't know what Benetiz would rather, that he have his marbles back or YOUR forgiveness. I mean holy christ man, come off it. Read your post again and tell me you don't come across as a complete goof. Who the hell cares how YOU expect a fighter to train? All that should matter to fans is what the do in the ring. If a guy can have a half ass training camp and still whip a top fighter he get's more props from me personally. Guess I just can't imagine being boring enough to train so methodically. Obviously you don't have the same problem.

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