Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
You know what, the only reason all these fighters want to face Joe is because they think they can beat him, not because of the money, they see all his recent opponents standing at the final bell and think he aint a puncher, they forget Joes opponents getting slapped around the ring at a pace they cant handle.

Joe dont have to prove anything over any young guns he did that already against Kessler just last year, Kessler was far more established on the world stage and more respected and well known than Dawson.

Also Dawson himself might be living in a false security, barely beating and Johnson who Woods beat far more convincingly and working at a slow pace against an old Tarver who Bernard had embarrassed.

Have you not seen the Clinton Woods-Glen Johnson fights, all of them were debatable, and far more heavily in Glen's favor than the Chad Dawson fight. Dawson snapped the head back on Harding several times, he sure hit hard enough to make Tarver turtle the whole fight. As For Kessler who has he beaten even close to Glen Johnson, Tarver, Harding, or Adamek? ALl these guys make Kessler's opposition pale in comparison.

Joe wasn't able to hurt Roy ONCE, and Glen Johnson hurt Roy and ko'ed him worse, if you want to compare fights Glen beat a better.younger version of Roy who was throwing combinations albeit only a handful of times, but still Roy was 3 or 4 years younger, and Glen KO'ed him. Calzaghe didn't land anywhere near the amount compubox stated, they have been fraudulent for years, just like in the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight or in a dozen other fights I've seen. Calzaghe didn't get the better of Hopkisn with his big workrate and slaping punches, and Chad Dawson IMO is a better LHW than either of them. He's faster than Roy has been in years, he hits harder than Hopkins or Jones, he is throws back when he gets hit, he throws combinations ,he has great jab and right hook which Calzaghe has never faced, and his best punch is the right uppercut which is Calzaghe's worst nightmare. Kessler landed it successfully, but he wasn't quick enough or threw the punch enough to really utilize it properly.

I also see that when Dawson was knocked down by Adamek(which he wasn't really hurt from, it looked like he tripped over one of Adamek's feet), and the time He was hurt against Glen JOhnson he came back in the same round to bring the fight to his opponent's doorstep.
Until Jones got cut, he was giving Joe a close fight. Joe was winning the rounds, but not by the wide margin. HBO and Compubox was retarded in that fight. I was sitting next to two guys from Setanta, a Welshman who fought Joe in the amatuers, and Scottish Calzaghe fan and they were all sweating until Jones got cut and gave up. They all said that the 1st round KD was the worst Joe had every been hurt, and acknowledged that Roy was landing the harder shots early in the fight.

It would be typical to bring in Johnson for a final fight. Fight the name, the former champ, the guy past it, to pad the resume and wallet instead of going for the best out there. Fair play to you Joe, but we'll always know that you played it smart and same. Good business.

Retire, or fight the young guns. I guess I would be happy for Johnson to get a good paycheck, but at this point, Johnson has had a few in his career.