Characters in boxing

[Master]

The main thing is to be a good boxer, character is secondary and Haye has it at the heavyweight division.

[kingfrnk]

thats why u gotta love PBF because he was a cocky ass punk who alot of people wanted to see get KTFO but it never happened lol. all the trash talking and pissing his opponent off is wat sold his fights. i miss PBF

[Gandalf]

thats why u gotta love PBF because he was a cocky ass punk who alot of people wanted to see get KTFO but it never happened lol. all the trash talking and pissing his opponent off is wat sold his fights. i miss PBF

As much as I respect PBF in the ring, I really dont have any time for the crap he pulls outside of it. He is really such a stupid individual. He trash talks like a pissed off step child. Its pedantic and embarrassing to see. That Larry Merchant interview after the DelaHoya fight is hilarious. PBF just sounds like a retard!

Mayorga and Toney are much better characters for that kind of thing IMO. Im not dissing PBF as a boxer, because his credentials are great up until 140.

[kingfrnk]

thats why u gotta love PBF because he was a cocky ass punk who alot of people wanted to see get KTFO but it never happened lol. all the trash talking and pissing his opponent off is wat sold his fights. i miss PBF

As much as I respect PBF in the ring, I really dont have any time for the crap he pulls outside of it. He is really such a stupid individual. He trash talks like a pissed off step child. Its pedantic and embarrassing to see. That Larry Merchant interview after the DelaHoya fight is hilarious. PBF just sounds like a retard!

Mayorga and Toney are much better characters for that kind of thing IMO. Im not dissing PBF as a boxer, because his credentials are great up until 140.

yea PBF was kinda annoying but he did wat he had to do to sell those fights and made those PPV numbers high. i wasnt even gonna buy the fight he had with Oscar but i did it wasnt worth it but i just had to see wat happened. now when he fought Hatton that was awesome cause Hatton was coming back at him too.

but a little character wouldnt hurt these days especially since boxing is the least talked about sport now days. i hear more about fukin softball than i do about boxing.

[Trainer Monkey]

Its kind of a double edged sword.
You need a couple of characters around to get the casual fan watching,and maybe learning enough about the sport to become a less casual fan.
But you dont want it to become WWE
Guys,like Ali and Hopkins are masters at selling a fight
Tysons fights sold themselves
You can spend all day coming up with funny Tex Cobb quotes
No matter what Warren thinks,Hattons flamboyant outside of the ring lifestyle makes him intriquing
I dare you to find me something a casual fan can latch on to about Chageav.
But at the same time,I like watching his fights,but Im not a casual fan

[Boom Boom]

I think Floyd would hve had a lot more sucess ifhe was charismatic. He just doesnt posess that interesting persona like a Ali, Leonard, Duran, ODLH. He just comes off as dull and predictible outside the ring. I would say guys like Malignaggi, Hatton, Hopkins, etc. keep the sport interesting cause they come off as genuine people.

[Diane]

thats why u gotta love PBF because he was a cocky ass punk who alot of people wanted to see get KTFO but it never happened lol. all the trash talking and pissing his opponent off is wat sold his fights. i miss PBF

As much as I respect PBF in the ring, I really dont have any time for the crap he pulls outside of it. He is really such a stupid individual. He trash talks like a pissed off step child. Its pedantic and embarrassing to see. That Larry Merchant interview after the DelaHoya fight is hilarious. PBF just sounds like a retard!

Mayorga and Toney are much better characters for that kind of thing IMO. Im not dissing PBF as a boxer, because his credentials are great up until 140.

If I hadn't already repped you this morning I would do it again.

I agree with everything you said.


And my opinion on this thread is, if the right matchups are made, you don't need a bunch of characters to force feed us a bunch of crap to sell a fight.

Did we need trash talk to sell us Cotto/Margarito? No, because is was the right matchup.

Do we need trash talk to sell us ODLH/Pac? Yes, because it's not a good matchup, and it's not one the people were asking to see.

[nola]

I think the important thing to keep in mind is that "having character" does not necessarily mean you're a jerk; it could mean that you're a nice guy, much like ODLH or Pacman. PBF doesn't seem to know how to do anything but be obnoxious once he steps outside the ring. While I can't fault his boxing skills, I can say he would be the last one in the boxing world that I would like to share a meal with.

The problem with the ODLH/Pacman match is you've got two very similar characters getting in the ring together - they've both fought their way to the top, have a vision for life after boxing, and believe that they need to help out the less fortunate along the way. There s no reason for these two to fight, other than money. There are plenty of other fights for Pacman, fights that could advance his career, and ODLH doesn't need to fight anymore, his career is nearly over.

I think this quote really does sum it up well -

And my opinion on this thread is, if the right matchups are made, you don't need a bunch of characters to force feed us a bunch of crap to sell a fight.

Did we need trash talk to sell us Cotto/Margarito? No, because is was the right matchup.

I have to agree with this. Sometimes, you just KNOW that a fight is going to be a good one. That the fighters are well matched, or that fighter A has a grudge against fighter B. And if that's there, you don't need to generate the PBF style hype to sell the PPVs.

Fess up - who got the PPV for the too-short Pacman-Morales fight just because there was a grudge to settle? As soon as the fight was scheduled, we decided to get it. The promise of a good fight was there, no hype needed. (Or, at least it was until you saw the fight, right? But by then, your money was in and it was just too late.)

Taylor-Pavlik II? It was a fight we all wanted to see. And both fighters had a lot of character, they both had strong personalities and a desire to win.

Calzaghe-Jones? After Hopkins took Hatton, we all wanted to see if Roy would do the same to Joe, even Joe's fans were biting their nails after Hopkins-Hatton. And all four of these fighters have character, too.

It's sort of like the baseball movie quote - If you build it, they will come.

If they build the better fights, we will come.

Without the hype.
Because they won't need it.

[SaltyBacon]

seems like when we have a charcter he's hated

but my fav. toney/prince naseem/eubanks/casyamor and a couple of more

[HattonTheHammer]

Amongst the hardcore boxing alumni were never going to NEED these type of personalitys amongst us but....

For the sport to survive these types of cocky, flashy stars make the sport what it is


I personally feel we need a tyson esque ticking time bomb back within the scene. The sort of guy who from his entrance to what he does in the ring to whether he kicks off at the post fight conference nobody knows what is gonna happen with him!!


If only Mayorga was a decent boxer

[Diane]

thats why u gotta love PBF because he was a cocky ass punk who alot of people wanted to see get KTFO but it never happened lol. all the trash talking and pissing his opponent off is wat sold his fights. i miss PBF

Snap out of it!!