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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    These guys do get education, but it's religious education by really hardline fundamentalist nutjobs. And the money for that nutjob education comes from our good friends Saudi Arabia. It's really a complex problem but getting some kind of India-Pakistan peace deal over Kashmir would stop this kind of India-Pakistan thing happening. And terrorism isn't restricted to any particular religion, and people from a specific religion are any more or less likely to resort to terrorism than any other religion. If you had Christian parts of the world being repressed by other religions you'd have Christian nutjob terrorists too.
    Maybe, but it wouldn't be the same. Concepts of Jihad, glory of martyrdom, and other stuff seem to be a little more endemic in the Islamic side of things, though I wouldn't go as far as equating Islam with these things. I really don't think we'd see much in the way of Christian suicide bombers, though I imagine you could argue we would.
    Oh I have no doubt we would.
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    CGM, did you here about the Jewish Kami Kasi Pilot, crashed His Plane in His Brothers scrap yard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    These guys do get education, but it's religious education by really hardline fundamentalist nutjobs. And the money for that nutjob education comes from our good friends Saudi Arabia. It's really a complex problem but getting some kind of India-Pakistan peace deal over Kashmir would stop this kind of India-Pakistan thing happening. And terrorism isn't restricted to any particular religion, and people from a specific religion are any more or less likely to resort to terrorism than any other religion. If you had Christian parts of the world being repressed by other religions you'd have Christian nutjob terrorists too.
    Maybe, but it wouldn't be the same. Concepts of Jihad, glory of martyrdom, and other stuff seem to be a little more endemic in the Islamic side of things, though I wouldn't go as far as equating Islam with these things. I really don't think we'd see much in the way of Christian suicide bombers, though I imagine you could argue we would.
    Oh I have no doubt we would.
    I guess we can define a terrorist as one who specifically targets civilians. Yeah, we'd probably see Christian terrorists, just not as many, and certainly a lot fewer who'd be willing to die in the process.

    Scrap, that's not a bad joke, I'll probably use it some time. My immediate reaction was to Google Jewish jokes, and I came up with Jokes, which I was not expecting. I guess the world has not gone completely politically correct yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    Maybe, but it wouldn't be the same. Concepts of Jihad, glory of martyrdom, and other stuff seem to be a little more endemic in the Islamic side of things, though I wouldn't go as far as equating Islam with these things. I really don't think we'd see much in the way of Christian suicide bombers, though I imagine you could argue we would.
    Oh I have no doubt we would.
    I guess we can define a terrorist as one who specifically targets civilians. Yeah, we'd probably see Christian terrorists, just not as many, and certainly a lot fewer who'd be willing to die in the process.

    Scrap, that's not a bad joke, I'll probably use it some time. My immediate reaction was to Google Jewish jokes, and I came up with Jokes, which I was not expecting. I guess the world has not gone completely politically correct yet.
    The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.

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    Religion - doing it's part for population control since the beginning of mankind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    Oh I have no doubt we would.
    I guess we can define a terrorist as one who specifically targets civilians. Yeah, we'd probably see Christian terrorists, just not as many, and certainly a lot fewer who'd be willing to die in the process.

    Scrap, that's not a bad joke, I'll probably use it some time. My immediate reaction was to Google Jewish jokes, and I came up with Jokes, which I was not expecting. I guess the world has not gone completely politically correct yet.
    The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.
    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    I guess we can define a terrorist as one who specifically targets civilians. Yeah, we'd probably see Christian terrorists, just not as many, and certainly a lot fewer who'd be willing to die in the process.

    Scrap, that's not a bad joke, I'll probably use it some time. My immediate reaction was to Google Jewish jokes, and I came up with Jokes, which I was not expecting. I guess the world has not gone completely politically correct yet.
    The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.
    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    Isn't it? It's not that different. You feel that people (IE people at abortion clinics or at gay bars) are doing something morally wrong which is an affront to your religion/God, so you kill them for it.

    It's not 100% the same, but it's not all the different.

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    The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.
    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    Isn't it? It's not that different. You feel that people (IE people at abortion clinics or at gay bars) are doing something morally wrong which is an affront to your religion/God, so you kill them for it.

    It's not 100% the same, but it's not all the different.
    ok, your point is taken. Not 100% taken, but somewhat taken. I would say that far fewer christians are prepared to kill to support their beliefs. And they would tend to target their victims more carefully. Note the use of the word tend.

    There is still the issue of concepts of jihad and martyrdom in modern society and religion. I've made my point there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    Isn't it? It's not that different. You feel that people (IE people at abortion clinics or at gay bars) are doing something morally wrong which is an affront to your religion/God, so you kill them for it.

    It's not 100% the same, but it's not all the different.
    ok, your point is taken. Not 100% taken, but somewhat taken. I would say that far fewer christians are prepared to kill to support their beliefs. And they would tend to target their victims more carefully. Note the use of the word tend.

    There is still the issue of concepts of jihad and martyrdom in modern society and religion. I've made my point there.
    You mean like the crusades or the martyrdom of St Peter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    Isn't it? It's not that different. You feel that people (IE people at abortion clinics or at gay bars) are doing something morally wrong which is an affront to your religion/God, so you kill them for it.

    It's not 100% the same, but it's not all the different.
    ok, your point is taken. Not 100% taken, but somewhat taken. I would say that far fewer christians are prepared to kill to support their beliefs. And they would tend to target their victims more carefully. Note the use of the word tend.

    There is still the issue of concepts of jihad and martyrdom in modern society and religion. I've made my point there.
    Right now far fewer Christians are terrorists compared to Muslims but that's only because they're not living under oppression caused by other nations/religions. American Christians have had half a century of unprecedented peace, prosperity and freedom of religion, yet they're still fine with bombing or nuking other countries preemptively when those countries have done nothing to them. Their leaders, such as radical cleric Pat Robertson, routinely call for military action, the assassination of democratically elected foreign heads of state etc. Imagine how angry they'd be if they'd been living under a dictatorship backed by a Muslim superpower for decades. There's endless stuff in the Old Testament which would justify suicide bombings and similar stuff. After decades under a dictator there'd be really radical clerics who'd tell huge numbers of radicalised completely uneducated/impoverished Chjristians that suicide bombings/similar was Holy and good. It's actually amazing it took Muslim terrorism so long to get started, not that it's actually happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    I guess we can define a terrorist as one who specifically targets civilians. Yeah, we'd probably see Christian terrorists, just not as many, and certainly a lot fewer who'd be willing to die in the process.

    Scrap, that's not a bad joke, I'll probably use it some time. My immediate reaction was to Google Jewish jokes, and I came up with Jokes, which I was not expecting. I guess the world has not gone completely politically correct yet.
    The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.
    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
    But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone

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    The first thing that came to my mind when I read that was the Christians who have bombed abortion clinics.
    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
    But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone
    McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

    As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
    But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone
    McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

    As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.
    He wasn't a Christian anyways, and as you mentioned his religious beliefs had nothing to do with the reasons behind what he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    Not quite the same as a stated desire to kill as many of the infidel civilians as possible, is it?
    For the record,there are rules to Jihad,they get broken,but show me where christ said to take out a federal building.
    But according to the rules of Jihad your supposed to leave the civillians and buildings alone
    McVeigh was an exception. There are always exceptions. He was specifically ttargeting the government, because of what happened in Waco.

    As for rules of jihad, well true enough. I mentioned earlier about not equating Islam with terrorism, but it's worth mentioning again. That doesn't negate my points. Because the type of terrorism I am talking about gets done in the name of Islam, whether it's by the rules or not.
    Oh come now,Atlanta during the Olympics got bombed in the name of Christ.
    Not to mention financial terrorism
    Like Jerry Falwell supporting South Africa in the middle of Apartheid saying it was gods will that his flock bought Kuggerands to support the Apartheid Goverment.
    Or the wack jobs who support Israel,because they believe that Israel has to be in the hands of the Jews for the Rapture to happen,and it doesnt matter what attrocities the Jewish Goverment does as state sanctioned terrorism.
    Most of its political anyway,Pakistan and India have hated each others guts for years now.
    What really set Bin Laden off was just as much that he was ticked off about the basing rights the Saudi's gave us as it was religous.
    You dont Christians can be terrorists?
    Ask the victims of the London Disco bombing if Christians can be terrorists, or any catholic child trying to go to school
    When we do it,its unfortunate,when they do it,its their evil religion

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