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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Manny Pacquiao wasn't really a name coming into the 1st MAB fight, thats why MAB was the favorite. MAB was coming off some of his best performances against Kevin Kelley, Johnny Tapia.

    And MAB was rated P4P number 3 before Manny Pacquiao beat him, how you cannot give credit to Manny Pacquiao for thrashing a P4P top 3 fighter. Who was coming off some of his best performances is beyond me.

    He then took on JMM/3k Battery/Erik Morales/Hector Velazquez/Erik Morales/Oscar Larios/Erik Morales/Jorge Solis/MAB/JMM/David Diaz.

    Just look at his quality of his opposition since the 1st MAB fight, its about as good as you can get. I really can't understand how you can rip Manny Pacquiao's opposition. When its of the highest quality.

    And please don't make me laugh saying Joe Calzaghe hits harder, but chooses not to you sound like an idiot. If a fighter could hit harder why would he choose not to ? that makes no sense.

    Joe Calzaghe only has a BS stoppage win over Peter Manfredo, and a stoppage win over the glass jaw Mario Veit, who he destroyed in 1 round in there first fight, but it took him 6 rounds in a rematch. And this is in his last 8 fights.

    Manny Pacquiao punches with much better technique. He puts his body weight behind his punches. And his blinding speed generates alot of power. Its ridiculous to even suggest Joe Calzaghe hits harder than Manny Pacquiao P4P.

    Manny Pacquiao is now fighting a fighter, who is naturally easily 160+ pounds. ODLH will easily have a 1 stone advantage when they fight. Yet you say Manny Pacquiao ducks fighters and doesn't fight the best are you kidding me ?

    Manny Pacquiao isn't my favorite fighter, JMM is actually my favorite. But i respect Manny Pacquiao alot i love his exciting style, i respect the fact that he wants to fight the best and prove he's the best. I really can't understand how anyone can't respect or appreciate Manny Pacquiao, or even assume he has been ducking fighters, with the quality of opponents he has fought in the past few years. And now this fight with ODLH.
    Calzaghe likes to toy with fighters he has more skills and art then pacquiao he is a complete boxer pacman is one dimensional and the only reason pacman is fighting oscar is because of the Money lets just be honest.

    You will not see the same pacquiao he is not a dumb guy once he feels the power and if oscar becomes aggressive he will not continue for his own well being. He has other sights and its politics.

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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Quote Originally Posted by Moono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Manny Pacquiao wasn't really a name coming into the 1st MAB fight, thats why MAB was the favorite. MAB was coming off some of his best performances against Kevin Kelley, Johnny Tapia.

    And MAB was rated P4P number 3 before Manny Pacquiao beat him, how you cannot give credit to Manny Pacquiao for thrashing a P4P top 3 fighter. Who was coming off some of his best performances is beyond me.

    He then took on JMM/3k Battery/Erik Morales/Hector Velazquez/Erik Morales/Oscar Larios/Erik Morales/Jorge Solis/MAB/JMM/David Diaz.

    Just look at his quality of his opposition since the 1st MAB fight, its about as good as you can get. I really can't understand how you can rip Manny Pacquiao's opposition. When its of the highest quality.

    And please don't make me laugh saying Joe Calzaghe hits harder, but chooses not to you sound like an idiot. If a fighter could hit harder why would he choose not to ? that makes no sense.

    Joe Calzaghe only has a BS stoppage win over Peter Manfredo, and a stoppage win over the glass jaw Mario Veit, who he destroyed in 1 round in there first fight, but it took him 6 rounds in a rematch. And this is in his last 8 fights.

    Manny Pacquiao punches with much better technique. He puts his body weight behind his punches. And his blinding speed generates alot of power. Its ridiculous to even suggest Joe Calzaghe hits harder than Manny Pacquiao P4P.

    Manny Pacquiao is now fighting a fighter, who is naturally easily 160+ pounds. ODLH will easily have a 1 stone advantage when they fight. Yet you say Manny Pacquiao ducks fighters and doesn't fight the best are you kidding me ?

    Manny Pacquiao isn't my favorite fighter, JMM is actually my favorite. But i respect Manny Pacquiao alot i love his exciting style, i respect the fact that he wants to fight the best and prove he's the best. I really can't understand how anyone can't respect or appreciate Manny Pacquiao, or even assume he has been ducking fighters, with the quality of opponents he has fought in the past few years. And now this fight with ODLH.
    Calzaghe likes to toy with fighters he has more skills and art then pacquiao he is a complete boxer pacman is one dimensional and the only reason pacman is fighting oscar is because of the Money lets just be honest.

    You will not see the same pacquiao he is not a dumb guy once he feels the power and if oscar becomes aggressive he will not continue for his own well being. He has other sights and its politics.
    Why don't you contrast that by telling us what Calzaghe fights for?

    All boxers fight primarily for the money.

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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Yea I know Manny is taking this fight for the money. I mean he's only fighting someone who is physically superior to him in every way when that's been his advantage against people in his weight class. He ducks fighters but is willing to go up to welterweight to fight one of the best fighters of this generation when he fought at 130 in MARCH!

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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Moono, I've seen a bunch of your posts saying Pacquiao is one-dimensional. I would like to know what exactly do you mean when you say that? What is Manny's one dimension?

    Don't be hesitant to explain. I'm not one of those people that will insult you by calling you a name.
    Last edited by C-Lo; 11-30-2008 at 06:19 PM. Reason: error

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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Moono, I've seen a bunch of your posts saying Pacquiao is one-dimensional. I would like to know what exactly do you mean when you say that? What is Manny's one dimension?

    Don't be hesitant to explain. I'm not one of those people that will insult you by calling you a name.
    I respect you C lo for that, people forget this is a discussion board and they tend to get out of hand and sensitive when people have differed opinions.

    Well to explain all he has is the left cross and he reaches with his punches.

    Watch this video it explains everything.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvz6STbvuc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Moono, I've seen a bunch of your posts saying Pacquiao is one-dimensional. I would like to know what exactly do you mean when you say that? What is Manny's one dimension?

    Don't be hesitant to explain. I'm not one of those people that will insult you by calling you a name.
    I respect you C lo for that, people forget this is a discussion board and they tend to get out of hand and sensitive when people have differed opinions.

    Well to explain all he has is the left cross and he reaches with his punches.

    Watch this video it explains everything.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvz6STbvuc
    I'm watching the Jets game right now so I'll take a look at the video later.

    I'll give you Pacquiao relies very much on his favorite jab-straight left or double jab-straight left. If people aren't stopping it, why change it?

    But I don't agree with you on him being one-dimensional. Throughout the years Roach has added to Pacquiao's arsenal.

    Roach changed his right hand completely. His jab used to be just a set up for his left but now he's stiffened up his jab into an effective punch in itself. His right hook has hurt all the fighters he's faced since Roach got him comfortable throwing it (he didn't use it much against Marquez the second time they fought).

    Pacquiao just used to be all offensive his defense has made a huge improvement as well. Slipping punches isn't his thing but his guard has improved tremendously. Watch his second fight with Marquez, his guard protected him from a lot of punches that would've landed if it had been an earlier version of Pacquiao. ALSO, his countering ability is way better than it used to be. He likes to duck under punches and throw a looping left and that's been effective. He also throws his right hook whenever his opponent leaves himself open after throwing a left hand.

    He used to have just ruthless aggression but now he has the ability to pick his spots.

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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Quote Originally Posted by Moono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Moono, I've seen a bunch of your posts saying Pacquiao is one-dimensional. I would like to know what exactly do you mean when you say that? What is Manny's one dimension?

    Don't be hesitant to explain. I'm not one of those people that will insult you by calling you a name.
    I respect you C lo for that, people forget this is a discussion board and they tend to get out of hand and sensitive when people have differed opinions.

    Well to explain all he has is the left cross and he reaches with his punches.

    Watch this video it explains everything.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvz6STbvuc

    BY the way Moono, I would have respected you had you not ridiculed a great boxer.

    Yes, you have your opinion but you should be responsible in stating your opinion. Not calling everybody who disagrees with you as nut hugger.

    Your getting what you deserve. This is a respectable site. Keep it that way and you won't have any problem with us.

    Most of us here have learned to be respectful with each other despite our difference in opinions. Maybe you could learn that by staying here a lot longer.

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    Default Re: Pacman is the Most Exciting fighter in Boxing....

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post

    BY the way Moono, I would have respected you had you not ridiculed a great boxer.

    Yes, you have your opinion but you should be responsible in stating your opinion. Not calling everybody who disagrees with you as nut hugger.

    Your getting what you deserve. This is a respectable site. Keep it that way and you won't have any problem with us.

    Most of us here have learned to be respectful with each other despite our difference in opinions. Maybe you could learn that by staying here a lot longer.
    First of you pacquiao huggers were the ones negging me I just stated my opinion and you could not accept it and starting going at me.

    So stop trying to play victim when you and the other pac fans were doing the victimizing.

    if you could respect peoples opinion why start negging me and requestiing others to do the same just becuase I happen to believe oscar will knock pacman out cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Manny Pacquiao wasn't really a name coming into the 1st MAB fight, thats why MAB was the favorite. MAB was coming off some of his best performances against Kevin Kelley, Johnny Tapia.

    And MAB was rated P4P number 3 before Manny Pacquiao beat him, how you cannot give credit to Manny Pacquiao for thrashing a P4P top 3 fighter. Who was coming off some of his best performances is beyond me.

    He then took on JMM/3k Battery/Erik Morales/Hector Velazquez/Erik Morales/Oscar Larios/Erik Morales/Jorge Solis/MAB/JMM/David Diaz.

    Just look at his quality of his opposition since the 1st MAB fight, its about as good as you can get. I really can't understand how you can rip Manny Pacquiao's opposition. When its of the highest quality.

    And please don't make me laugh saying Joe Calzaghe hits harder, but chooses not to you sound like an idiot. If a fighter could hit harder why would he choose not to ? that makes no sense.

    Joe Calzaghe only has a BS stoppage win over Peter Manfredo, and a stoppage win over the glass jaw Mario Veit, who he destroyed in 1 round in there first fight, but it took him 6 rounds in a rematch. And this is in his last 8 fights.

    Manny Pacquiao punches with much better technique. He puts his body weight behind his punches. And his blinding speed generates alot of power. Its ridiculous to even suggest Joe Calzaghe hits harder than Manny Pacquiao P4P.

    Manny Pacquiao is now fighting a fighter, who is naturally easily 160+ pounds. ODLH will easily have a 1 stone advantage when they fight. Yet you say Manny Pacquiao ducks fighters and doesn't fight the best are you kidding me ?

    Manny Pacquiao isn't my favorite fighter, JMM is actually my favorite. But i respect Manny Pacquiao alot i love his exciting style, i respect the fact that he wants to fight the best and prove he's the best. I really can't understand how anyone can't respect or appreciate Manny Pacquiao, or even assume he has been ducking fighters, with the quality of opponents he has fought in the past few years. And now this fight with ODLH.
    Calzaghe likes to toy with fighters he has more skills and art then pacquiao he is a complete boxer pacman is one dimensional and the only reason pacman is fighting oscar is because of the Money lets just be honest.

    You will not see the same pacquiao he is not a dumb guy once he feels the power and if oscar becomes aggressive he will not continue for his own well being. He has other sights and its politics.
    And Manny Pacquiao didn't toy with David Diaz ? thats one of the best masterclasses i've seen in a while. Manny Pacquiao isn't one dimensional, he has developed his right hand much more.

    He has more variety of punches and his countering skills have improved vastly. Manny Pacquiao is fighting ODLH for money of course he is and so does every boxer so i don't see your point ?

    But the risk is still very high considering how many weightclasses Manny Pacquiao, is moving up to. And considering how big ODLH is.

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