First off why are you guys even putting Joes name with bhops.I hope you people don't think joe is great cause he beat lacy. Lacy wasn't anything special. Hop didn't fight joe cause at the end of the day Joe is still a guy who hasn't really beat anyone. To be in the game as long as joe and your best win is Jeff Lacy that is pathetic.Joe has to beat a really good fighter before i can put him in bhops class because the truth is he wasn't before and beating a young limited fighter won't get you there. Sorry