Mumbai

[Trainer Monkey]

No you are incorrect. There has been no concerted effort on the part of the US or any significant part of the US to kill lots of Muslim civilians. Dude, do do you really honestly think that with all the bombing that the US has conducted, that it was really an attmpt to kill civilians, because by golly if that was the case then, as I have stated, there would be far far more dead muslims civilians. Why do you think the US is having so much trouble in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is due in large part to the lack of respect groups like ALQuaida have for civilian life, shit they have no problem killing Iraqis just to try and make us look bad. It's because the US is trying not to kill civilians. Although obviously they are not having 100% success.

Sorry about the bold, but you seem to be consistently ignoring the crux of my points. YOu speak of the evil US and their bombing and all, and a few white supremacists but you have consistently ignored the key issues about indiscriminate killing of civilians. As many as possible. No other group has taken this stated position. What do you think these guys mean when they walk down the street whacking themselves bloody with 2 by 4s, chanting "Death to the Great Satan"? Do you see White Supremacists obtaining nukes, and bioweapons? Are you prepared to say we are no better all the way to your grave?

Really?
We sent nerve gas to Sadaam,blew the snot out of Iraq twice,propped up the Shah in Iran,fed weapons to the Iranians and the Saudi's,trained the mujahadeen,propped up Israel no matter what atrocity they did,and trained the Lebanese Christian Militias(this is the short list by the way) in an effort of good will to our fellow man?
Heaven forbid we actually really disliked someone,I suppose that would involve nukes,or plagues of locusts or something

OK guy I will take this to indicate that you really do believe that you (The US) are no better than Al Quaida, and that you are getting what you deserve. I will also take this to mean that you really do believe that the USA wants to kill lots of civilians. I say that because you obviously disagree with me when I say that the US doesn't want to kill as many civilians as possible.

No even worse,our military doesnt give a shit who we hit,ask the Cambodians about our carpet bombing efforts.
Doesnt exactly help to win hearts and minds, when the heart is over here, and the mind is over there

[CGM]

Really?
We sent nerve gas to Sadaam,blew the snot out of Iraq twice,propped up the Shah in Iran,fed weapons to the Iranians and the Saudi's,trained the mujahadeen,propped up Israel no matter what atrocity they did,and trained the Lebanese Christian Militias(this is the short list by the way) in an effort of good will to our fellow man?
Heaven forbid we actually really disliked someone,I suppose that would involve nukes,or plagues of locusts or something

OK guy I will take this to indicate that you really do believe that you (The US) are no better than Al Quaida, and that you are getting what you deserve. I will also take this to mean that you really do believe that the USA wants to kill lots of civilians. I say that because you obviously disagree with me when I say that the US doesn't want to kill as many civilians as possible.

No even worse,our military doesnt give a shit who we hit,ask the Cambodians about our carpet bombing efforts.
Doesnt exactly help to win hearts and minds, when the heart is over here, and the mind is over there

OK bud, at least I understand your position a little better. Can't say I agree, but what else is new. Time to bring this little subthread to a close.

cheers.