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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

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    Hatton because Manny can make 140 and it would be nice to see how he can operate. Hatton because at the moment he is the best 140 pounder in the world.

    Hatton because Manny could do something shane Mosley didnt, Shane skipped 140 and went to 147 to face oscar and stayed, Manny could move down and beat the guy that just unified two titles down at 140 and add more to his history.

    Any fight with Mayweather right now is a name fight, and Manny just had one against the biggest name, I want Pacquiao if he beats Hatton to win the titles at 140 with a win. Does more for boxing and his legacy for a Pacquiao Hatton fight then a Pacquiao Mayweather fight imo.
    Your theory is absurd! Fighting Mayweather just a name fight? Since when is an undefeated 5 division champ just a name?
    No way in hell beating Hatton at 140 means more than beating Mayweather. PBF KTFO Hatton for crying out loud.

    Yes Mayweather beat Hatton, Hatton went back to 140 and now holds two titles there.

    If Pacquiao beats Hatton he also holds two belts at 140 which adds more to his championships. At the moment Mayweather holds no titles and is "retired". If you want Floyd to fight someone at 147 have him fight Williams. If you want Pacquiao to win belts are you going to put him in against Paul Williams at 147 or would you put him in against Hatton at 140?

    He can do what Shane Mosley didn't and beat Oscar at 47 and then move down to 140 and win more world titles. I don't see whats so wrong with that notion.

    If you want Pacquiao to fight a belt holder at 147 then pick Berto. Because Williams and Margarito should be fighting each other or Mayweather, Cotto is also in the mix up there. And I wouldnt favor Pacquiao against those guys at 147. I think a safer bet would be him vs Hatton at 140, and it would add more world titles to his collection imo.
    Who cares about the belts though? Hatton and Malignaggi fought their big 'unification' title for no belts because they didn't even deem them valuable enough to bother paying the sanctioning fees for.

    Joe Calzaghe moved up and fought B Hop for no belt becuase B Hop couldn't care less about keeping it and Joe couldn't care less about winning it.

    When it comes to the fighters at the very top they are bigger than all the alphabet belts.

    Who cares if Ricky has a paper title, he's still the guy who got ktfo by Floyd Mayweather and therefore the vast majority of people would rather see Manny in with Mayweather rather than a Mayweather victim.

    The belts don't matter, look at the super featherweight divison, Manny was seen as THE man in the division, the Ring champ, universally recognised champ in that weight class long before he finally won a belt there. Barrera and Marquez were the belt holders but Manny was the champ.

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Why I would like to see him beat Hatton before Floyd, is simply because it would make the Pac v Floyd fight even bigger... There is still the question of whether Pac could beat Hatton... So going into the Floyd fight, people would still consider him a bit of an unknown quantity after Oscar brought nothing to the table...

    But a destruction of Hatton would have him at the absolute top of any weight under 147, and the world would pracitically stop for a matchup then with Floyd... I think Floyd would probably like it that way as well, to see Pac beat Hatton first..

    Not that I wouldn't love to see him fight Floyd and certainly wouldn't complain about it coming as Pac's next fight.
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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Wow, I'm still in utter and complete shock on how Manny made Oscar quit. Something only B-Hop has done. I've been a detractor of this fight for months now and I will completely admit that I was wrong. I think Manny has a good shot of beating Hatton but I don't think that he could beat Floyd. I think that Hatton should fight ODLH at Wembley and that Manny should fight Floyd. Even though ODLH really, honestly, did appear to be a completely shot fighter at 147, Manny proved that he can hang with anybody. He DOMINATED and made Oscar quit without even being touched hardly. A Floyd vs Manny fight would be a true superfight and the fight would be competitive and exciting. That's for damn sure.

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    Why I would like to see him beat Hatton before Floyd, is simply because it would make the Pac v Floyd fight even bigger... There is still the question of whether Pac could beat Hatton... So going into the Floyd fight, people would still consider him a bit of an unknown quantity after Oscar brought nothing to the table...

    But a destruction of Hatton would have him at the absolute top of any weight under 147, and the world would pracitically stop for a matchup then with Floyd... I think Floyd would probably like it that way as well, to see Pac beat Hatton first..

    Not that I wouldn't love to see him fight Floyd and certainly wouldn't complain about it coming as Pac's next fight.
    well said.

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    Why I would like to see him beat Hatton before Floyd, is simply because it would make the Pac v Floyd fight even bigger... There is still the question of whether Pac could beat Hatton... So going into the Floyd fight, people would still consider him a bit of an unknown quantity after Oscar brought nothing to the table...

    But a destruction of Hatton would have him at the absolute top of any weight under 147, and the world would pracitically stop for a matchup then with Floyd... I think Floyd would probably like it that way as well, to see Pac beat Hatton first..

    Not that I wouldn't love to see him fight Floyd and certainly wouldn't complain about it coming as Pac's next fight.
    exactly what i was thinking. anyways, you said it better.

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Pacman vs Hitman at wembly in june 2009 with 100,000 fans screaming for both fighters to give us a great real scrap!!!

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Does anyone really believe Pac could have beaten Oscar in his prime up at Welter? That is the problem with a Mayweather fight.

    Too big, too strong but not too old.

    Hatton is the perfect fight at the perfect weight and what a tear up it would be (no running as you'd see with Floyd).
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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76 View Post
    Does anyone really believe Pac could have beaten Oscar in his prime up at Welter? That is the problem with a Mayweather fight.

    Too big, too strong but not too old.

    Hatton is the perfect fight at the perfect weight and what a tear up it would be (no running as you'd see with Floyd).
    No but at the same time could Oscar have beaten prime Chavez ? thats boxing

    I hope Hatton fights Pac its a better fight than Pac - Floyd.

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Come on guys, we all know belts mean less to pac then the name of his oppenent. He knows the name of his oppenent is better for his legecy then belts. He does want hatton but im sure his starving to fuck floyd up. He has been saying all along he would fight hatton in england and want the crowd against him cause even boos motivated him. I think he will take on hatton but if floyd steps in he would want him even more. Pac wants the best thats his ambition. His been like that way before he was rich, Im a big fan cause pac is still as hungry as the boy who grew up in GENERAL SANTOS PHILIPPINES. Can we say that about anybody else, thats been were pac is now?

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    i made a thread about a year ago stating that the only currently active fighter that could beat pbf was pacquiao and basically got laughed at due to the big weight difference,

    not looking so stupid now is it

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i made a thread about a year ago stating that the only currently active fighter that could beat pbf was pacquiao and basically got laughed at due to the big weight difference,

    not looking so stupid now is it
    if you want to compare the way Oscar fought Manny to the way Mayweather would.

    And overall its a bigger fight if Pacquiao beats Hatton first which I think he has a very big chance at doing.

    This is the kind of thing that would make Mayweather "unretire"

    If you asked PBF to fight Manny now he would probably say the typical "So he beat an old oscar de la hoya, I did that at 154, and Oscar couldn't look impressive against Forbes, he was old, what did that fight prove? I'm the best fighter IN THE WORLD. With the best team IN THE WORLD."

    But if Manny beats Hatton especially the way he beat Oscar. Then people will say "Pacquiao beat both Hatton and De La Hoya more impressively then Mayweather did"

    That's what can bring the fight up and ultimately make it bigger.
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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i made a thread about a year ago stating that the only currently active fighter that could beat pbf was pacquiao and basically got laughed at due to the big weight difference,

    not looking so stupid now is it
    if you want to compare the way Oscar fought Manny to the way Mayweather would.

    And overall its a bigger fight if Pacquiao beats Hatton first which I think he has a very big chance at doing.

    This is the kind of thing that would make Mayweather "unretire"

    If you asked PBF to fight Manny now he would probably say the typical "So he beat an old oscar de la hoya, I did that at 154, and Oscar couldn't look impressive against Forbes, he was old, what did that fight prove? I'm the best fighter IN THE WORLD. With the best team IN THE WORLD."

    But if Manny beats Hatton especially the way he beat Oscar. Then people will say "Pacquiao beat both Hatton and De La Hoya more impressively then Mayweather did"

    That's what can bring the fight up and ultimately make it bigger.
    no worries dude i was just being a bit smug that i had predicted that their paths may even cross in the future way back when he was at 126/130

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i made a thread about a year ago stating that the only currently active fighter that could beat pbf was pacquiao and basically got laughed at due to the big weight difference,

    not looking so stupid now is it
    if you want to compare the way Oscar fought Manny to the way Mayweather would.

    And overall its a bigger fight if Pacquiao beats Hatton first which I think he has a very big chance at doing.

    This is the kind of thing that would make Mayweather "unretire"

    If you asked PBF to fight Manny now he would probably say the typical "So he beat an old oscar de la hoya, I did that at 154, and Oscar couldn't look impressive against Forbes, he was old, what did that fight prove? I'm the best fighter IN THE WORLD. With the best team IN THE WORLD."

    But if Manny beats Hatton especially the way he beat Oscar. Then people will say "Pacquiao beat both Hatton and De La Hoya more impressively then Mayweather did"

    That's what can bring the fight up and ultimately make it bigger.
    no worries dude i was just being a bit smug that i had predicted that their paths may even cross in the future way back when he was at 126/130
    Thats a good prediction, given the events you'd be right.

    But I do think Pacquaio should fight Hatton first. They were talking about Henry Armstrong right on the De La Hoya fight, well then he SHOUDL go to 140 and beat Hatton for those titles and they wont call it "cherry picking" like they did against Diaz
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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    I think Pac would tear Ricky up judging by what I saw last night.
    If Ricky was as old and way passed his prime like ODLH then I would also say that Pac would tear him up easily. Sure, I can see Pac winning against Ricky. Pac beat The Great Oscar De La Hoya, actually, an old passed his prime OLDH. It happens all the time with fighters who decided to stay in the ring longer than they should. Others beat them and look great.
    Pac has looked good in his recent fights. He didn't look as invincible twice against Marquez but other than that, he seems to be going through the right path.

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    Default Re: Surely it will be Manny vs Floyd in 2009

    ye majesty it is a great fight that needs to happen and will greatly enhance the winners legacy, i dont think it can be called cherry picking, ricky called him out really, with regards to diaz he had the WBC and pac was taking it so again not cherry picking

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