Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
If Oscar fought much better and really tested Manny, then of course that's true, we would be able to tell a lot better how he can handle genuine Welterweights...

But from the fight we can still gauge a few things..

At that weight, he was still as fast and sharp as he was at lower weights..
His body still looked incredible.. Every single bit of that 142 or 145 lbs was pure, active, productive muscle..
His punches snapped as good as they did at lower weights.
His movement has gotten even better over his last couple of fights courtesy of Roach
The fact that he is the P4P fighter in the world, and now it's clear he looks the same at 140+ than he did at lower weights,, why couldn't we say that he logically would be the best 140 lbs out there...
He has been in some incredible scraps in the lower divisions and has really been messed up, and still continued on to win decisions.. He is incredibly tough, and the way he's carried his weight up to 142+, I personally would consider him a genuine 140 pounder now, and P4P will beat anyone at that weight...

It would be doing him a bit of an injustice to say that we don't know what he would be like with other welters, because I don't believe he should be considered a genuine 147 pound fighter.. He skipped 140 and I think that is where he should be considered now.... And at that weight, he'll be as sharp and tough as anyone out there... And I believe with a fight or 2 or 3 at that weight, he could look at 147... It would be incredibly hard to say how he would go against a Cotto or Margarito just based on Oscar.. Oscar brought nothing..

But what Pac proved on his own about how well he brought all his attributes and more up through the weight classes to maybe as high as 145 pounds, proves that as a P4P champ, you can say that he has a shot against anyone that he makes that weight at...


Or i'm just crazy..
Superb post...
Very well said.