Kelly Pavlik PPV in Feb... rip off?

[killersheep]

Rubio's not bad, he has genuine power to match Pavlik's and he makes for very exciting fights. I always tune in to Rubio's fights. That being said it's definately not PPV worthy.

[mexirican]

Pavlik-Rubio alone is not worth PPV, same can be said for Cotto-Jennings. The fact that its a co-feature is worth it.

[albsur2006]

I'm telling you, these PPVs are OUT OF CONTROL!!! Sooner or later even Larry Merchant's ramblings will be on PPV. Why should the viewing public have to pay money to watch two guys who just got their ass whooped? Get the fuck outta here...

On cards like this Arum is just hoping for enough buys (like 150k) to pay for Cotto and Pavlik's guarantees. These guys got career high paychecks for their last fight, they LOST them, and they STILL demand the same paychecks. Pavlik got a $3 Million dollar guarantee for fighting Hopkins, Cotto got a $3 Million dollar guarantee (which I heard went to like 6 Million total after the PPV revenue split) for fighting Tony. Both the guys lost. Cotto's apparently getting a $3 Million guarantee for fighting Jennings and Pavlik probably will get the same amount. These are much lower profile fights and the fighters demand the same amount of money. This is why things are on PPV. Plus, promoters take a good deal of the pot too. The networks don't wanna pay for fights like Rubio and Jennings so Arum has gotta come up with the money somehow. Arum could get the money if Pavlik and Cotto fought harder opponents but he doesn't wanna do that right after two losses. So he has to throw this thing on PPV. The system now is garbage. Everyone is raping the system while they can. But with these shitty HBO rating, boxing better hope that HBO continues to pump the same amount of money into the sport each year, or we're all fucked.

[ClubberLang]

Arum had little choice but to take the card to PPV because neither HBO nor Showtime had an interest in purchasing it. He could have found better opponents, but these are two of the biggest attractions in his stable and both are coming off losses, so he understandably wants to give them confidence building fights. I actually think Rubio-Pavlik could be an entertaining scrap, though I would expect a Pavlik win by mid-rounds stoppage. Cotto should make easy work of Jennings. Whether or not it's a rip-off will depend on the price and the quality of the undercard fights. If it's priced at something like $34.95 and has two interesting undercard bouts, then it could be worth it. If it's your typical $49.95 card Arum will be lucky to get 100,000 buys. Hell, Pavlik-Hopkins only did 190,000.

[BoxingGorilla]

Rubio is as slow as Christmas morning. I think Pavlik will KO him.

[CountryBoy]

Both those guys just came back from the beating of their lives, They are not worthy of a 54.95 PPV, maybe 19.95 with them on the same card.

[Lance Uppercut]

There on PPV not because they want to, but because nobody(HBO or Showtime) would pay to show the fights. Arum either had the choice of not televising them or showing them on a Top Rank produced ppv.

[The Fightfan]

There on PPV not because they want to, but because nobody(HBO or Showtime) would pay to show the fights. Arum either had the choice of not televising them or showing them on a Top Rank produced ppv.

That's f**king hilarious neither network would show them but if they both had won the last fight's this would be an easy 54.95 PPV on HBO. I mean s**t it's not like Kelly PAvlik is the middleweight champion or anything or he's making a second defense of his title's. AAH F**K him he dosen't deserve to be on HBO or Showtime. Maybe Versus could pick this one up.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Rubio was in negotiations to fight Andy Lee prior to Lee's shellacking at the hands of Vera.

He's been flirting with the idea of a Pavlik fight for some time.

[Diane]

Rubio was in negotiations to fight Andy Lee prior to Lee's shellacking at the hands of Vera.

He's been flirting with the idea of a Pavlik fight for some time.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Rubio is Pavlik's mandatory.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Did someone just say ''War Jennings''

[leftylee]

Did someone just say ''War Jennings''

That was me. I've said it before that I back everyone of my fellow countrymen in fights bar Junior Witter. Always will do.

[Wayne]

Is Cotto-Jennings an HBO PPV? Last year HBO made good on their promise of fewer PPVs and I thought that was going to be an ongoing trend with them in the future. You can't just be slapping any old thing up on the wall.

[Diane]

Is Cotto-Jennings an HBO PPV? Last year HBO made good on their promise of fewer PPVs and I thought that was going to be an ongoing trend with them in the future. You can't just be slapping any old thing up on the wall.

No, this is a Top Rank independent PPV, it has nothing to do with HBO or Showtime. The Cotto fight, and the Pavlik fight are part of the same PPV, they will just be held in 2 different locations, but are part of the same broadcast.

[JonnyFolds]

Is Cotto-Jennings an HBO PPV? Last year HBO made good on their promise of fewer PPVs and I thought that was going to be an ongoing trend with them in the future. You can't just be slapping any old thing up on the wall.

I wouldn't say that they "made good" on their promise. If there is money to be had they will make it! It's all about the Benjamins. They basically got tired of losing money on their gables for sub par fights. I am thinking new thread... WorstPPV fights ever.