Firtsly I think the PacMan defeat is irrelevant to his career - he was old and rich and got beaten by a Prime P4P fighter.

Same against Hopkins - Bernard was just too big and certainly not faded.

But Oscars career which is impressive even to me and I don't like De La Hoya.

It did seem that he beat fighters smaller even when at the same weight.


Is he an all-time Great - No interms of ability but history and multi weight wins will say Yes. But it is easier to win a World title these days than even in the 80's.