Mayweather vs Pac

[the_PRODIGY]

Mayweather by a close UD. Floyd has the best defense but I think his offense would win this one for him. Pac's left lead is just undefendable and Floyd's defense I think is vulnerable with that punch. his left arm is way down on his belly. I think Pac wins the early rounds being the aggresor throwing and connecting more punches but Floyd is to smart not to adjust and he would be more offensive. A think Pac would go down flash at the middle of the fight. that would be the fight's turning point. Again, Floyd wins by UD but it should be very close.

[Chino]

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Same thing. Even if we heard that Klitschko went down on weight and Pac went up to face each other I just can't see Pac fans going "No way Pac wins that one" specially now after beating A GREAT regardless of him being old, worned-out, drained, far from his prime, etc.

[brucelee]

You're highlighting/quoting the less relevant statement... Can you comment on the following:

Same thing. Even if we heard that Klitschko went down on weight and Pac went up to face each other I just can't see Pac fans going "No way Pac wins that one" specially now after beating A GREAT regardless of him being old, worned-out, drained, far from his prime, etc.

..... and please stop generalizing us Pac fans coz you're a pac hater and you can't deny that.

[XaduBoxer]

You're highlighting/quoting the less relevant statement... Can you comment on the following:

Same thing. Even if we heard that Klitschko went down on weight and Pac went up to face each other I just can't see Pac fans going "No way Pac wins that one" specially now after beating A GREAT regardless of him being old, worned-out, drained, far from his prime, etc.

And why would I pick against PAC? PAC haven't lost for a long time even with the increasing risks, increasing weight and bigger challenges in every next fight. PAC getting used to it, he has the momentum, he's the man right now. Why would I pick against him?

You know, I'm really thinking PBF will be in a big surprise. PAC is a very fast southpaw boxer with a great stamina...
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[Chino]

LOL. I know you're a hater Chino. You just can't admit it.

Saying things that a fan wouldn't dare himself saying doesn't make me a hater. Does it make me a hater when I said I had my doubts about ODLH vs Pac? Does it make me a hater when I say that I am not so sure about ODLH decision with Sturm? People DO HATE ODLH around here and outside when no matter what he does people will bitch about. Now that is hate.

Then you'd say, "I don't hate PAc... I Just hate his pac fans....."

That's right but you seem to get a bit sensitive and skip those parts where I talk about how he keeps on improving on every fight, how he brings action to the ring, how he's not anymore the guy that only had a charging straight left and that was it, how I like Pac not being a trash talker. I have also mentioned how it sucks that he has beaten some Mexicans before (except Marquez) but it doesn't suck AS MUCH since, well, it's Pac! And he doesn't go on trash talking like others. And yes, I have mentioned that I would like to see him loose just to see how his fans react as much as I wanted to see ODLH loose just to see how HBO would react since I felt that sometimes HBO worshipped him.

You know we are decent and would always be decent regarding our love for Pac. You're putting us in a bad picture always as if we're crazy about Pac. I just know that you're still hating us after you were proven wrong with your predictions against our country man.

My prediction was not as bad. Instead of getting all excited about his fight against Forbes, just like Pac fans got excited about Pac vs Diaz, I said that I was not impressed and also that if a guy that is not known for having a KO punches damaged Oscar's face then Pac would be a greater threat and so on. Yes, I like ODLH but I won't have any problems talking about things I dislike about him unlike Pac or Cotto fans who can't seem to accept negative comments about their guy. There's only like one or two guys in this forum who are not only Pac fans but also Phillipino who have their doubts about Pac's decisions vs Marquez.

LOL. Grow old Chino.

Am I supposed to praise Pac blindly like you? Someone else needs to grow up then. It's just simple stuff. Just tell me, was ODLH young and in his complete prime? Was Ali in his prime when he lost against Berbick? Was Leonard in his prime when he lost against Norris or Camacho? Was Tyson in his prime when he lost against McBride? Imagine if all those fights were done at least 5 years earlier. That is not hating or being immature. That's just what happens when a boxer stays in the ring longer than they should. And let me tell you, ODLH got a taste of his own medicine. Fought JC Chavez in the same situation he fought Pac. But what can be even more funny (see, I have no problem saying something negative about a boxer I LIKE AND SUPPORT) is that I somehow feel he wanted to retire from boxing with a "big victory" and therefore decided to "play it safe" by fighting someone who could bring some PPV demand, big crowds, etc. But who was smaller at the same time and not a big threat and look what happens. I would be a bit embarrassed by the loss really. Not only to my fans but also to my whole team and promoters. See? I like ODLH and all but I don't blind myself from seeing stuff like that. Can't believe you blind yourself from seeing something as simple as ODLH being worned out, not in his prime, drained, etc. I'll put it this way, EVEN PAC AND HIS TEAM KNEW ABOUT IT and they mentioned it in interviews, 24/7 show, etc. Did you miss that part?...far from hate dude.

I know you're mexican and you would always support your fighter just as we do

The difference is that I don't blind myself from their mistakes or flaws.

PAcquaio KOed Marquez how many times and it seems you're forgetting that. First fight was a draw and the second fight clearly goes to Pac. Let it be that way coz that's how it was judged.

Then if that is the way it was judged than we can agree that Chavez and Holyfield totally deserve their "Tie" decision, right? I totally support JC Chavez and here I am doubting his decision vs Whitaker.

And why would I pick against PAC? PAC haven't lost for a long time even with the increasing risks, increasing weight and bigger challenges in every next fight. PAC getting used to it, he has the momentum, he's the man right now. Why would I pick against him?

So you do see him beating Klitschko then, eh? Hhhhhmmmph, doesn't surprise me from a Pac fan really.

[XaduBoxer]

And why would I pick against PAC? PAC haven't lost for a long time even with the increasing risks, increasing weight and bigger challenges in every next fight. PAC getting used to it, he has the momentum, he's the man right now. Why would I pick against him?

So you do see him beating Klitschko then, eh? Hhhhhmmmph, doesn't surprise me from a Pac fan really.

This is a Mayweather vs. PAC thread, we're discussing about PBF vs. PAC. Why drop another name here (Klitschko who?)?

Like I said, I pick PAC over PBF since PBF might not able to figure out PAC's very fast southpaw attacks.
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[kingfrnk]

And why would I pick against PAC? PAC haven't lost for a long time even with the increasing risks, increasing weight and bigger challenges in every next fight. PAC getting used to it, he has the momentum, he's the man right now. Why would I pick against him?

So you do see him beating Klitschko then, eh? Hhhhhmmmph, doesn't surprise me from a Pac fan really.

This is a Mayweather vs. PAC thread, we're discussing about PBF vs. PAC. Why drop another name here (Klitschko who?)?

Like I said, I pick PAC over PBF since PBF might not able to figure out PAC's very fast southpaw attacks.
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Floyd adapts to everybody. even if pac has got a little better (which i think he has) but eventually Pac wont have his straight left anymore then wat other tools can he use . PBF always comes in with more than 1 game plan. Pac has never met a pure poxer like floyd and JMM and Oscar dont count.

[the_PRODIGY]

So you do see him beating Klitschko then, eh? Hhhhhmmmph, doesn't surprise me from a Pac fan really.

This is a Mayweather vs. PAC thread, we're discussing about PBF vs. PAC. Why drop another name here (Klitschko who?)?

Like I said, I pick PAC over PBF since PBF might not able to figure out PAC's very fast southpaw attacks.
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Floyd adapts to everybody. even if pac has got a little better (which i think he has) but eventually Pac wont have his straight left anymore then wat other tools can he use . PBF always comes in with more than 1 game plan. Pac has never met a pure poxer like floyd and JMM and Oscar dont count.

that would still be the money shot for Pacquiao. Logic says Floyd's stance is most vulnerable to left straight/leads. And have you seen how quick Pac's left lead lately? It might not have the same sting as his straight punches or his crosses but it sure has some serious snap. Enough to shut some eyes. So IMO he shouldn't think he won't get hit.He will be a less elusive target against Pac. He would get tagged more than he ever was. But I still think he wins this one by being offensive. sustained attacks of overhand rights and counter left hooks will do it for him.