But at the end of the day, clean effective punching is by far the single most imporftan measure. By the way, maybe we could send this to the NYC Commission. You know, the one that did the Cassamayor-Sanata Cruz fight and the recent Agustus robbery.![]()
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Those are the outlines and criteria but it all on the person which one they prefer or put first....and how they view each....
EG-...You have a fighter that is very defensive but not a counter puncher...He is the type that slips and moves....
His opponent is a come forward aggressive fighter....
The defensive fighter knows he is faster and can avoid most the aggressive fighters punches so he allows the agressive fighter to control the ring by letting him pursue him.....yet the agressive fighter fails to land more then one or two clean shots in the round....And the defensive fighter only threw one shot here and there mostly jabs yet they landed cleanly....
Who do you give the round to?
Some judges to the agressive fighter for pushing the action and keeping the defensive fighter constantly working even when he did not want to.....
Others to the defensive fighter because he did not allow the agressive fighter to be effective with that agression
In the end judges are just like any fan and will sway toward the style they prefer and not a strict outline....
Personally I score it according to this way and in this order
Ring Generalship- If you can manage to fight off the ropes when you want and then take it to the center when you want then you have your opponent fighting your fight...
Defense-- Boxing is to hit and not be hit...Or not be hit with punishing blows depending on your style.....Avoid being damaged and you already are up a leg..
Effective Aggression-- You can throw punches all night but if they are not calculated they are useless...EG throw a 100 bombs in a round and if one does not land on the button all you did was waste energy....Guys who work the body to brak a man down like Cotto does making them ripe for the taking or guys like Calzaghe who just overwhelm you so you can not get off your shots are perfect examples of effective aggression....
Also effective aggression can be used in other ways...Guys who like to get close and fight in a clinch are just as effective in their aggression if they are amking progress with it....Or guys who get off then tie you up while roughing you up on the inseide to drain your energy...Hatton is a master at this...Making you use energy to get out of his hold after landing shots, leaning on you until the ref seperates you.....
They are art forums many do not understand..or appreciate
Clean effective punching--People often confuse this with effective aggression...clean effective punching does not always mean hard shots....If you can keep landing clean jabs that are just enough to keep your opponent busy enough to worry more about avoiding then throwing you are throwing effective clean punches...Sure hard power shots are what dazzles but keep hitting a guy in his shoulder just as he is getting ready to throw and you disrupt his rythm enough the punches are effective just in a different way
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i was thinking more the dumbies that scored chris john winner over JMM one of the most byest decisions ive ever seen!!
For the record i hate kellerman and dearly wish he never called another fight as long as he lives.
But the "which man would you rather be" is actually a very good point!!
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I generally score towards effective punching to legal targets.
If he's just throwing alot of shots and hitting the arms,thats not a pointing target is it?
The rules clearly state torso and head,I dont care how many times he hit him in the elbow
I tend to watch the 12 rounds and make a decision based on the
hour or so of boxing ive watched.....A winner is usually pretty obvious.
Unless it's a close fight. In wich case ill grab a pen a paper.
But You can't really explain how you score a fight you just gotta go with
what your watching.
But IMO combinations are the biggest point scorer....If your scoring Combos...You have to be given the round surly.
"It wasn't the night of the jab"
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