George Bush nearly pelted with shoes

[Formerly D@vid Leeder]

Things under that tyrant are probably looking pretty rosy about now.

You can't force people to take up democracy (and if you think there is any real democracy in the West, you're dreaming). Especially in a place with no tradition of democracy. The Middle East has been a quagmire for nearly 100 years due to Western intervention.

Yeah, Saddam only killed 2,000,000 people, including gassing an entire town. It doesn't get much rosier than that unless you think of Lidice under the Nazis.

Actually most of that death count was us.
Between the sanctions,the fly overs,GW1,and us giving him all those nasty toys for the war with Iran.
We've got our paws all over that,not to mention encouraging the Kurds to revolt and leaving them high and dry.
At least Sadaam kept the lights on,and the plumbing working,which is more then we can seem to pull off.

Actually no, the death count is the responsibility of the person who made a choice to do the killing. You don't blame Smith and Wesson if I go out and shoot a gas station attendant with a .38 Special.

As for encouraging the Kurds, it appears I need a history lesson. Any trustworthy websites you might recommend on that topic?

[Trainer Monkey]

Yeah, Saddam only killed 2,000,000 people, including gassing an entire town. It doesn't get much rosier than that unless you think of Lidice under the Nazis.

Actually most of that death count was us.
Between the sanctions,the fly overs,GW1,and us giving him all those nasty toys for the war with Iran.
We've got our paws all over that,not to mention encouraging the Kurds to revolt and leaving them high and dry.
At least Sadaam kept the lights on,and the plumbing working,which is more then we can seem to pull off.

Actually no, the death count is the responsibility of the person who made a choice to do the killing. You don't blame Smith and Wesson if I go out and shoot a gas station attendant with a .38 Special.

As for encouraging the Kurds, it appears I need a history lesson. Any trustworthy websites you might recommend on that topic?

History of Iran: Arming Iraq: A Chronology of U.S. Involvement
LONG TIME ALLIES: USA and Turkey- almost fallout over Kurdish Iraq.
Its old news
And if I think a guy is a sociopath,and I hand him a howitzer,I should have some culbability

[Kirkland Laing]

Yeah, Saddam only killed 2,000,000 people, including gassing an entire town. It doesn't get much rosier than that unless you think of Lidice under the Nazis.

Actually most of that death count was us.
Between the sanctions,the fly overs,GW1,and us giving him all those nasty toys for the war with Iran.
We've got our paws all over that,not to mention encouraging the Kurds to revolt and leaving them high and dry.
At least Sadaam kept the lights on,and the plumbing working,which is more then we can seem to pull off.

Actually no, the death count is the responsibility of the person who made a choice to do the killing. You don't blame Smith and Wesson if I go out and shoot a gas station attendant with a .38 Special.

As for encouraging the Kurds, it appears I need a history lesson. Any trustworthy websites you might recommend on that topic?

The King of Jordan actually fired the first shot in the Iran-Iraq war. I used to have the photograph somewhere but it's lost on some hard drive. The war was originally a pan-Arab war against the Iranians and all the Arab leaders backing it were our puppets, like the King of Jordan. They just left most of the fighting to the Iraqis. After Saddam gassed all those Kurds we were still supporting him. Mainly the US government but the British government also built him gas factories and facilities after the Kurds got gassed too.