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    Default Re: FRAUD!!! Holyfield vs Valuev

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    ?

    Can someone post the result or is it a secret ?
    Are you taking the piss? Two people have created threads about how Holyfield was robbed blind and you can't work out what happened?

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    Default Re: FRAUD!!! Holyfield vs Valuev

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    ?

    Can someone post the result or is it a secret ?
    Are you taking the piss? Two people have created threads about how Holyfield was robbed blind and you can't work out what happened?

    it could have been a draw. why is it so f**king hard to post the official scorecards

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    Angry Re: FRAUD!!! Holyfield vs Valuev

    Everyone On This Website Should All Protest This Decision This Is An Outrage!

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    Default Re: FRAUD!!! Holyfield vs Valuev

    Their had to be a payoff. Those judges should never be allowed to work again.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    I should have Holyfied vs Valuev dotted for Robbery of the Year! Nah!

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    Merged so the discussion stays in one place.

    But seriously, I saw up until 1/2 way through the 10th round, and I was convinced that Holyfield was going to win, because Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake, while Holyfield circled him, dived in to land occasionally, then got back out of range. Frankly, it's an outrage that Holyfield isn't celebrating being a five-time world champion tonight, but that in itself is a statement on the farcicle state of the heavies at the moment.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    Not a good fight to watch, and a deplorable decision.

    Im no Holyfield fan, but he was screwed.

    This can be such a disgusting sport. Judges need to held accountable for their decisions.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    They need to retract and give it to Holyfield, I mean he trained hard for that fight and he is 46 years old, A rematch would be a really bad idea being he would just be that much older and Bigfoot would actually train harder. Holyfield won and he deserved the nod.
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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    I did not see the fight BUT judging boxing can be very subjective. That being said, the judges were from neutral countries, so the only way the fix was in is if the WBA was involved. I Would not be surprised as the governing bodies are a joke, but since the WBA was involved there is no way the decision would be reversed so that is wishful thinking. This is another reason boxing needs to be rescued. Hopefully someone like a John McCain can establish some kind of order. The Ring is the closest thing we have, and I have my doubts about it since it is owned by GBP.....

    I think Holyfield may have been screwed out of a win but to say he was screwed out of the Heavyweight Championship is a farce....
    Last edited by Hunter; 12-21-2008 at 03:36 AM.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake
    Damn I just choked on my Cherrios. That was funny!

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake
    Damn I just choked on my Cherrios. That was funny!
    No,no,it looked like they partially shave his back for this fight

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    watching this fight really pissed me off. holyfield won it. valuev did nothing. Fixed, felt sorry for holyfield he should have won.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    Ok I've just watched this fight to see what all the fuss is about & as usual Germany is again the venue for a dodgy decision. I've also scored it twice. When scoring it neutrally and fairly I had 118-110 in favour of Holyfield, and I can even see how some of you guys are scoring it as a complete shutout. I then re-scored it by heavily favouring Valuev, and giving him rounds based on ANY positive action from him in a round, or basically anything that I believe a judge could argue was worth scoring the round in his favour, and I had it 114-114 on this occasion.

    As far as I'm concerned this is a disgusting robbery, and I can see one possible reason for this being Holyfield's safety, and the WBA attempting to make sure that he did not fight again.

    Also as a side-note, the few newspaper reports I've read seem to agree with the judges that Valuev won has anyone else noticed this??

    Still it hasn't pissed me off anywhere near as much as Bute-Andrade
    Last edited by JazMerkin; 12-21-2008 at 01:40 PM.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    There is no way I'm letting that biggity comission get my IP address. You can e-mail them all you want. Who knows what kind of foul play they are capable of unleashing!

    Besides, I believe that Evander knew what the deal was before he took the fight. Get paid and look like some kind of martyr when you don't get the title. Afterwards say whatever makes you feel good and look for another paycheck.

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    Default Re: Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla View Post
    There is no way I'm letting that biggity comission get my IP address. You can e-mail them all you want. Who knows what kind of foul play they are capable of unleashing!

    Besides, I believe that Evander knew what the deal was before he took the fight. Get paid and look like some kind of martyr when you don't get the title. Afterwards say whatever makes you feel good and look for another paycheck.
    This is close to the point Ive been trying to drive home,Holyfield didnt do enough to win and Valuev didnt screw up enough to lose.
    If I was a major promoter(not a mid realmer like what I am) I wouldnt book either of them at gunpoint.
    As a midrealmer,your damned right,Id book a re-match if it was cheap. I wouldnt actually watch my own fight,but Id book it.
    Id probably just send a surrogate and have them call me to tell me what happened.

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