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    Thanks Salty

    I look forward to the guide!

    I'm going to look up more on muscle fibres - I just don't really want to believe that they can only be converted from fast to slow and won't go back!

    Especially in response to an Adult's training rather than during a young person's development? It sounds more like deterioration than an adaption to exercise.

    Perhaps that's what it is though - less ability to react to firing neurons as quickly since they are not maintained or something? I'll have to read up on it!

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    Right I'm still reading it but I found an article RE fast and slow twitch muscles fibres that might be of interest:

    About.com: http://www.the-aps.org/publications/classics/articles/ingalls.pdf

    And another one:

    It is generally accepted that muscle fiber types can be broken down into two main types: slow twitch (Type I) muscle fibers and fast twitch (Type II) muscle fibers. Fast twitch fibers can be further categorized into Type IIa and Type IIb fibers.

    About.com: http://www.springerlink.com/content/1137px7x66667132/

    Bsically i think from these articles the evidence is inconclusive although granted I might want to keep looking for more up to date info.

    I'm wondering how much mentality comes into it also.

    I feel most confident with a strong endurance base and I think longer workouts tend to be a good outlet. I generally only need one real endurance and perhaps one semi-endurance workout per week to see improvement. I don't see it including these sessions as being at the cost of other workouts neccessarily since I doubt I'd make gains from having more than 2 max 3 speed sessions a week?
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    Sorry missed this on the other post, Fibres can be altered over time. Also 3 maximum sessions a week is enougth for fitness. The secret of fitness is recovery Time, and having a good Vo2 max base. Boxing Fitness is in the catogary of middle distance Running train accordingly, its a mixture
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    Thanks Scrap

    So by middle distance you might mean say a 10 km runner?

    I'll look into that.

    I've been reading articles on the Ross Boxing site and one relating to patience hit a nerve.

    I guess that's what part of this is about - having the patience to trust that a few quality workouts a week is better than a heap of shitty ones, not to mention the patience to stick with a training program for a decent amount of time rather than changing it more often than your underwear.

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    1500 metres is middle distance in my Book . Look at a Training program for the event its a mixture of distance and intensity. Use to work at the same Time on the same track as Seb Coe, use to talk at length to Peter Coe, learned a lot. Sebs spent a lot of time in the gym to compliment the Track.
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    That's good to know, Scrap. For track I like to do the 800 m and this year will maybe be moving up slightly in distance and do a couple of events.

    Yea...I have a hard time buying into the irreversible slow twitch fiber. I can't see a person having done some longer distance running, to now be stuck in sloth muscle twitch mode without the ability to change and or compliment it. I think it would be beneficial to have both that sort of long term endurance for long rounds required in pros, as well as explosiveness needed.

    This is something I too want to look into more, and try to understand better.
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    1500 hundred is long! Damn!

    Thanks Scrap

    I'm sure it is beneficial - I think I might take some time adjusting to it and learning to train for it so I get the same endorphin kick out of it as I do longer runs but I will give it a go over Christmas.

    I concur Youngblood - I'll have to read up on it more too but it wouldn't suprise me if there is a lot of natural variation which makes it difficult to find conclusive statistically significant differences.

    Check out the huge SD (standard deviations) in the table in the second paper I posted - HUGE - bigger than the differences found!

    My supervisor would have me throw that away completely! Granted he's a wanker though.

    I'd rep you both but i have to spread it apparently!

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