Screw Boxing and I mean that from my heart - Holyfield was ROBBED!

[superheavyrhun]

Merged so the discussion stays in one place.

But seriously, I saw up until 1/2 way through the 10th round, and I was convinced that Holyfield was going to win, because Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake, while Holyfield circled him, dived in to land occasionally, then got back out of range. Frankly, it's an outrage that Holyfield isn't celebrating being a five-time world champion tonight, but that in itself is a statement on the farcicle state of the heavies at the moment.

[Gandalf]

Not a good fight to watch, and a deplorable decision.

Im no Holyfield fan, but he was screwed.

This can be such a disgusting sport. Judges need to held accountable for their decisions.

[CountryBoy]

They need to retract and give it to Holyfield, I mean he trained hard for that fight and he is 46 years old, A rematch would be a really bad idea being he would just be that much older and Bigfoot would actually train harder. Holyfield won and he deserved the nod.

[Hunter]

I did not see the fight BUT judging boxing can be very subjective. That being said, the judges were from neutral countries, so the only way the fix was in is if the WBA was involved. I Would not be surprised as the governing bodies are a joke, but since the WBA was involved there is no way the decision would be reversed so that is wishful thinking. This is another reason boxing needs to be rescued. Hopefully someone like a John McCain can establish some kind of order. The Ring is the closest thing we have, and I have my doubts about it since it is owned by GBP.....

I think Holyfield may have been screwed out of a win but to say he was screwed out of the Heavyweight Championship is a farce....

[BoxingGorilla]

Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake

Damn I just choked on my Cherrios. That was funny!

[Trainer Monkey]

Valuev didn't seem to be doing anything except pivoting around like a bear tied to a stake

Damn I just choked on my Cherrios. That was funny!

No,no,it looked like they partially shave his back for this fight

[liz]

watching this fight really pissed me off. holyfield won it. valuev did nothing. Fixed, felt sorry for holyfield he should have won.

[JazMerkin]

Ok I've just watched this fight to see what all the fuss is about & as usual Germany is again the venue for a dodgy decision. I've also scored it twice. When scoring it neutrally and fairly I had 118-110 in favour of Holyfield, and I can even see how some of you guys are scoring it as a complete shutout. I then re-scored it by heavily favouring Valuev, and giving him rounds based on ANY positive action from him in a round, or basically anything that I believe a judge could argue was worth scoring the round in his favour, and I had it 114-114 on this occasion.

As far as I'm concerned this is a disgusting robbery, and I can see one possible reason for this being Holyfield's safety, and the WBA attempting to make sure that he did not fight again.

Also as a side-note, the few newspaper reports I've read seem to agree with the judges that Valuev won has anyone else noticed this??

Still it hasn't pissed me off anywhere near as much as Bute-Andrade

[mrbig1]

I bet we're going to see a rematch. Not that I want to. Maybe in the U.S.A.

[BoxingGorilla]

There is no way I'm letting that biggity comission get my IP address. You can e-mail them all you want. Who knows what kind of foul play they are capable of unleashing!

Besides, I believe that Evander knew what the deal was before he took the fight. Get paid and look like some kind of martyr when you don't get the title. Afterwards say whatever makes you feel good and look for another paycheck.

[Trainer Monkey]

There is no way I'm letting that biggity comission get my IP address. You can e-mail them all you want. Who knows what kind of foul play they are capable of unleashing!

Besides, I believe that Evander knew what the deal was before he took the fight. Get paid and look like some kind of martyr when you don't get the title. Afterwards say whatever makes you feel good and look for another paycheck.

This is close to the point Ive been trying to drive home,Holyfield didnt do enough to win and Valuev didnt screw up enough to lose.
If I was a major promoter(not a mid realmer like what I am) I wouldnt book either of them at gunpoint.
As a midrealmer,your damned right,Id book a re-match if it was cheap. I wouldnt actually watch my own fight,but Id book it.
Id probably just send a surrogate and have them call me to tell me what happened.

[yvonne]

Does anyone here know when this fight will be boardcast again so i can judge it for myself?What channel will it be boardcasted on and what day?Thanks!

[Master]

Eurosport 2, June 6th 2009, 8pm

[CountryBoy]

Protest Holyfield

[ClubberLang]

Dan Rafael Breaks Down Valuev's Win - ESPN Video