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Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
I dont see it as a robbery,I see it as one of the worst fights Ive ever watched, but not a robbery.
Valuev landed more effective blows,Holyfield threw more punches,but as often as not,hit low or the arms,and barely missed a deduction for head butting in to Valuevs chin.Also Holyfield faded in the second half.
That being said,I never want to see either of them in a ring again,as long as I live.It was the worst fight of the entire card.
Im having a hard time just getting Martin/Mahfood 2 even booked,and that crap was a $24 PPV?
Sorry man I like you, but that whole paragraph is about as inaccurate as you can get.. An arguement can be made that Holy pitched a shut out, Valuev didnt land one solid shot on Holy, Evander was on his toes the whole fight had great lateral movement picked off Valuev's jab and slipped just about every punch along with putting on a counter punching clinic..

Its no secret that you are one of the top 2 Holyfield haters around here with frozensolid 702 being#1 so I think your pretty biased on this one..

As far as the headbutt goes, Evander slipped a right and came up under his chin, not to hard to fathom when you are giving up a foot to your opponent
Nope,sorry,I gave the first two rounds to Holyfield,and made a point of watching it with someone else,who saw it exactly as I did.
And trust me,I thought Valuev sucked as well,but he just sucked more effectively
Evander spent to much of the second half of the fight bouncing outside and not doing a thing,and it cost him the fight. Just like Hopkins took too many rounds off against Taylor,and Im sure youd say Im the biggest Hopkins fan on here. And while I think Bernard won that,it wasnt the robbery of the century either.
Same fight almost note for note.
I take an attitude of,it could have gone either way. Again the biggest robbery of the night(other then Valuev and Holyfield stealing money) was the womans bought right before.
And Im no huge fan of Valuev,he should have a tattoo on his chest saying,"Do Not Attempt To Operate Heavy Machinery While Watching Him Fight"
And I dont think it was a crowning achievment for Valuev,if he let Holyfield out of the corner one more time.............
Its was a doggrel fight,and Im praying Valuevs people screw up,and put him in with someone who can convincingly beat him,so I dont have to watch him anymore.
Again though read the whole post,it could have gone either way,and when your fighting the champion,you need to whup his ass. Chageav beat the snot out of Valuev,it wasnt even close. Evander needed to make sure it didnt go to the judges,or be more active,not dancing around on the outside,but landing legit power shots. He didnt do it.
And hate to break it to you again,Evander was a brilliant Cruiserweight. And if he didnt use that hard noggin as often as his fists,a solid HW champ if not a great one. I dont like his lifestyle, but who cares about his lifestyle when the bell rings? Sonny Liston wasnt exactly a choir boy,but he was a great fighter