Yea i have to agree with Ono thats silly logic TM, you could have some of the best muscle's on your abs. But without a good diet and cardio i don't care if you do 100's of crunches a day you won't ever see the results with a big layer of body fat around your mid-section.
Haven't you ever heard of the old saying that Abs are made in the kitchen and not in the gym ? and that couldn't be more true. Of course you still have to work your abs to develop your muscles. But having a good set of abs are mostly having a good diet and doing alot of cardio and having a low body fat. Your body fat has to be atleast below 10 percent before you see the results regarding a six pack and ETC.
I was always naturally pretty lean so it didn't take a whole lot of work for me. But all i did was do a ton of cardio and that was stuff like swimming, running, heavybag, cross-trainer, skipping, ETC. And a good clean diet now i can't tell you what to eat, because everyone has there own variety when it comes to foods, but just look up on the net and your find plenty of good stuff regarding good foods.
I also recommend doing hanging leg raises, leg raises, they are some of the most effective lower ab exercises. But again just look up on the net, theres plenty of info telling you what the most effective lower ab exercises are. And remember to add alot of variety to your Ab workouts, but good luck and let us know how you get on.
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