Mayweather vs Pac

[Rantcatrat]

I am not sure how I would enjoy this fight because I want to see them both loose badly. Mayweather, well, I admire all his talent and I am yet to see someone nowadays be as complete as him. Offense, defense, speed, accuracy, you name it! Floyd Maywetaher Jr. HAS IT ALL! It's not like we can say "Oh, he has this and that weakness" nope, come on, name one that is clear in every fight. He has fought pretty much all kinds of styles and has come out victorious. I am not so sure about his first fight against Castillo and De La Hoya though. If someone ever cuts or bruises him, that would be impressing.

Anyways, I want someone to shut his loud mouth! Would Pac be the one to do that? Then we have Pac who I admire in and out of the ring. But certain fans can just be annoying and if it wasn't because of those fans, I would be cool with him. I just want to see him loose and then see how fans take it who seem to see Pac as the complete perfect flawless boxer who's victories against JMM were 100% clear/convincing and will never ever loose even if he jumps to the heavyweights. I just hope Pac gives Mayweather all the honorable credit and respect with no excuses "My socks had the wrong color...It was a bit cloudy outside...etc."

are u sayin that his fight with Oscar was close or that he had a difficult time with his style??

No, all I am saying is that ODLH was passed his prime, old, worned out, drained, no gas left in the tank, and pretty much everything else that Pac and his whole team even mentioned. Even they all knew this was an opportunity to add a nice name to the resume. It happens all the time when boxing legends decide to stay in the ring longer than they should: Ali, Leonard, Tyson, Chavez, etc. etc. etc. and now ODLH. I am surprised people ignore this fact. Pac is good, no doubt, and keeps improving in my opinion. He just happened to fight an old, worned out, drained, passed his prime, ODLH. Just like ODLH did when he faced JC Chavez. What goes around comes around I guess.

KananKrus,
I'll give it a try.

The funny thing is that before the fight NO ONE knew that ODLH was washed up. The media thought that the fight was a mismatch and thus bad for the sport. Most boxers thought pacman would lose. The sports books had pacman as a heavy underdog. Even a philipino politician thought pacman would lose. Many people even thought pacman would get knocked out! Going into the ring as such an underdog and still beaming with confidence and courage speaks for itself. The win was huge. This was not a case of Calzaghe v. Jones where the boxing public universally thought Calzaghe would win on points because RJJ was passed his prime. This was a HUGE upset.

Did ODLH change that much from May of 2007 - when he battled Floyd to a split decision loss - to ODLH in December of 2008, when he was destroyed by Pacquiao? It is obvious he changed, but Mayweather didn't maul ODLH like Pacquiao did and Mayweather is naturally a bigger man than Pacquiao.

Because of his accomplishments and ability, PBF should be heavily favored in a fight with Pacquiao, but the intrigue for the fight is justified.

[brucelee]

Pac will be very very different from all the fighters Mayweather had faced so I give the win to Pac.


Mayweather's shoulder roll will be no problem for Pac.

[JT Rock]

Pac will be very very different from all the fighters Mayweather had faced so I give the win to Pac.


Mayweather's shoulder roll will be no problem for Pac.

How So? I notice both you and Julius have said similiar things but are yet to back it up with an in depth analysis or well thought plan..

So Im curious to hear what that is... Because a questionable desicion against JMM a win against an overrated Diaz and victory over a drained ineffective lethargic plodding old Delahoya, dosent give one Ioda of an idea today more than it gave last year that Pac had a snowball chance in hell of beating PBF.

I admit I picked Oscar to destroy Pac and believed that up until they announced HBO's unofficial weigh in were Oscar was a pound less than Pac. Everyone in the world though it was a foregone conclusion that Delahoya was going to come into the ring about 155-160, not being lighter and giving up every advantage he would have had.

Congrats to Pac for moving up in weight and demolishing Delahoya, I will say this if Floyd fought Delahoya under the same circumstances and weighed 147 without gaining a pound come the fight night, Im sure it would have been close to the outcome of the Gatti fight

[:::PSL:::]

Pac will be very very different from all the fighters Mayweather had faced so I give the win to Pac.


Mayweather's shoulder roll will be no problem for Pac.

How So? I notice both you and Julius have said similiar things but are yet to back it up with an in depth analysis or well thought plan..

So Im curious to hear what that is... Because a questionable desicion against JMM a win against an overrated Diaz and victory over a drained ineffective lethargic plodding old Delahoya, dosent give one Ioda of an idea today more than it gave last year that Pac had a snowball chance in hell of beating PBF.

I admit I picked Oscar to destroy Pac and believed that up until they announced HBO's unofficial weigh in were Oscar was a pound less than Pac. Everyone in the world though it was a foregone conclusion that Delahoya was going to come into the ring about 155-160, not being lighter and giving up every advantage he would have had.

Congrats to Pac for moving up in weight and demolishing Delahoya, I will say this if Floyd fought Delahoya under the same circumstances and weighed 147 without gaining a pound come the fight night, Im sure it would have been close to the outcome of the Gatti fight

Lol! I've been gone for 6 months. But I took the chance of reading some of your pre DLH-Pac comments. And I gotta tell ya, you weren't alone with your prediction. 28 out of 30 of so called "boxing experts" picked DLH to win. And most of them are using the same reason the one that you are using right now why Oscar lost (the weight issue).

Oscar De La Hoya didn't just lost. He got tortured.

I guess the real beauty of that Pacquiao victory is he made most of his doubters as believers, and made some of his haters STFU.

[JT Rock]

Pac will be very very different from all the fighters Mayweather had faced so I give the win to Pac.


Mayweather's shoulder roll will be no problem for Pac.

How So? I notice both you and Julius have said similiar things but are yet to back it up with an in depth analysis or well thought plan..

So Im curious to hear what that is... Because a questionable desicion against JMM a win against an overrated Diaz and victory over a drained ineffective lethargic plodding old Delahoya, dosent give one Ioda of an idea today more than it gave last year that Pac had a snowball chance in hell of beating PBF.

I admit I picked Oscar to destroy Pac and believed that up until they announced HBO's unofficial weigh in were Oscar was a pound less than Pac. Everyone in the world though it was a foregone conclusion that Delahoya was going to come into the ring about 155-160, not being lighter and giving up every advantage he would have had.

Congrats to Pac for moving up in weight and demolishing Delahoya, I will say this if Floyd fought Delahoya under the same circumstances and weighed 147 without gaining a pound come the fight night, Im sure it would have been close to the outcome of the Gatti fight

Lol! I've been gone for 6 months. But I took the chance of reading some of your pre DLH-Pac comments. And I gotta tell ya, you weren't alone with your prediction. 28 out of 30 of so called "boxing experts" picked DLH to win. And most of them are using the same reason the one that you are using right now why Oscar lost (the weight issue).

Oscar De La Hoya didn't just lost. He got tortured.

I guess the real beauty of that Pacquiao victory is he made most of his doubters as believers, and made some of his haters STFU.

No one in the world though that Pac would weight a pound over delahoya.. Crazy to think Oscar gave up his size and weight to try to be faster... The Oscar of 4 years ago wouldnt have been faster than pac... I knew he was going to get destroyed when he was lighter

[Chino]

The funny thing is that before the fight NO ONE knew that ODLH was washed up

Actually, people were commenting about that on the Forbes fight. I even said that if Forbes, who is not known for being a dinamite KO puncher, could hurt ODLH then Pac would be a bigger threat. Now, you have all these people praising Pac for beating ODLH, which is fine, but people forget what it means to be "passed their prime". The only ones I have heard mention that are boxing analists and critics. Same thing with Mc Bride beat Tyson, when Norris and Camacho beat Leonard, when ODLH beat Chavez and ended up taking a taste of his own medicine when facing Pac and so on. Happens all the time in boxing.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

I don't believe Oscar is in his prime right now, but if you put Oscar in his prime and Manny in his, Manny is Winner IMO. The reason being is the chin. I've seen manny in some tuff fights and I have never seen him hurt nor knocked down. Oscar on the other hand I have. Granted Oscar does have a good chin, but it can't compare with Manny's. For DLH's sake I hope these rumorss arnt true regaurding him wanting a rematch, I dont see him ever progressing against pacman. Manny is just to fast, and even more unexpected power.

[kingfrnk]

Pac will be very very different from all the fighters Mayweather had faced so I give the win to Pac.


Mayweather's shoulder roll will be no problem for Pac.

and mayweathers is the same as all of the other fighters that Pac has fought..............

look how much problems JMM gave him. i wouldnt be surprised if Pac gets KTFO. and that shoulder roll would drive Pac crazy when he realizes that he cant hit him like he did Oscar