Sharla's Log

[Sharla]

Right I'm still reading it but I found an article RE fast and slow twitch muscles fibres that might be of interest:

About.com: http://www.the-aps.org/publications/classics/articles/ingalls.pdf

And another one:

It is generally accepted that muscle fiber types can be broken down into two main types: slow twitch (Type I) muscle fibers and fast twitch (Type II) muscle fibers. Fast twitch fibers can be further categorized into Type IIa and Type IIb fibers.

About.com: http://www.springerlink.com/content/1137px7x66667132/

Bsically i think from these articles the evidence is inconclusive although granted I might want to keep looking for more up to date info.

I'm wondering how much mentality comes into it also.

I feel most confident with a strong endurance base and I think longer workouts tend to be a good outlet. I generally only need one real endurance and perhaps one semi-endurance workout per week to see improvement. I don't see it including these sessions as being at the cost of other workouts neccessarily since I doubt I'd make gains from having more than 2 max 3 speed sessions a week?

[Scrap]

Sorry missed this on the other post, Fibres can be altered over time. Also 3 maximum sessions a week is enougth for fitness. The secret of fitness is recovery Time, and having a good Vo2 max base. Boxing Fitness is in the catogary of middle distance Running train accordingly, its a mixture

[Sharla]

Thanks Scrap

So by middle distance you might mean say a 10 km runner?

I'll look into that.

I've been reading articles on the Ross Boxing site and one relating to patience hit a nerve.

I guess that's what part of this is about - having the patience to trust that a few quality workouts a week is better than a heap of shitty ones, not to mention the patience to stick with a training program for a decent amount of time rather than changing it more often than your underwear.

[Scrap]

1500 metres is middle distance in my Book . Look at a Training program for the event its a mixture of distance and intensity. Use to work at the same Time on the same track as Seb Coe, use to talk at length to Peter Coe, learned a lot. Sebs spent a lot of time in the gym to compliment the Track.

[Youngblood]

That's good to know, Scrap. For track I like to do the 800 m and this year will maybe be moving up slightly in distance and do a couple of events.

Yea...I have a hard time buying into the irreversible slow twitch fiber. I can't see a person having done some longer distance running, to now be stuck in sloth muscle twitch mode without the ability to change and or compliment it. I think it would be beneficial to have both that sort of long term endurance for long rounds required in pros, as well as explosiveness needed.

This is something I too want to look into more, and try to understand better.

[Sharla]

1500 hundred is long! Damn!

Thanks Scrap

I'm sure it is beneficial - I think I might take some time adjusting to it and learning to train for it so I get the same endorphin kick out of it as I do longer runs but I will give it a go over Christmas.

I concur Youngblood - I'll have to read up on it more too but it wouldn't suprise me if there is a lot of natural variation which makes it difficult to find conclusive statistically significant differences.

Check out the huge SD (standard deviations) in the table in the second paper I posted - HUGE - bigger than the differences found!

My supervisor would have me throw that away completely! Granted he's a wanker though.

I'd rep you both but i have to spread it apparently!

[Scrap]

YB, interestingly I work with an 800 metre runner 17 now. When 16 in a year He improved his times by 16 secs in a year His pb for the event is 1 . 49 He is now in the Elite squad. All done by non impact work repairing not destroying, be kind to the muscle and joints they love the memory you give them. They repay you in kind.