you he to read this

[Trainer Monkey]

PS,Ive seen the tape on his latest trip to the gym,he'd tell you I thought it was better but still flawed

[amat]

That's funny under TM's direction I was expecting Andrew to be flawless. How disappointing. Haven't you ever been told to re-listen to your voicemails Andrew?

[RP33]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

[Trainer Monkey]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

He also lost twice to Panz and hast even fought for 9 years
More Orson Welles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3qg4i22x9M

[RP33]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

He also lost twice to Panz and hast even fought for 9 years
More Orson Welles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3qg4i22x9M

Well, my point is that he was an established pro..

I haven't fought in 23 years, but i'm confident that i would beat kid thunder on sheer god-given talent alone.. and i'm not trying to brag or hype myself up, he's just that bad.. talking about fighting Haugen is ridiculous if he lost 14 times to guys who are much less skilled than Greg.

[Trainer Monkey]

Haugen is a former champ, no? He beat the Paz-man..

Granted he's way past his time, but i mean, i haven't ridden a bike in years but i'm sure after 30 seconds i'd remember..

Andrew Hartley is a moron, plain and simple.. I'll fight him in my backyard for $0 so long as if i beat him he never fights again..

He also lost twice to Panz and hast even fought for 9 years
More Orson Welles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3qg4i22x9M

Well, my point is that he was an established pro..

I haven't fought in 23 years, but i'm confident that i would beat kid thunder on sheer god-given talent alone.. and i'm not trying to brag or hype myself up, he's just that bad.. talking about fighting Haugen is ridiculous if he lost 14 times to guys who are much less skilled than Greg.

Again,while he's looked bad,it was usually because of lack of training,you still end up with a 24 year old against a 48 year old

[RP33]

Again,while he's looked bad,it was usually because of lack of training,you still end up with a 24 year old against a 48 year old

i respectfully disagree.. not to say that with training he couldn't "better", but when you lose 14 times i think there is more than a training issue.. I applaud your effort to help train him, and it will obviously benefit him even outside of the ring because he will be healthier regardless, but we're men by nature, and we already have the bare-bone skills to fight.. i doubt he fought more than 3 or 4 guys who were actually really good technically who kept him at bay with their jab and he couldn't figure out how to beat them.. For the other 10 or so, it was him face to face with another man and going to "war", and i use that term loosely.. who's stronger, who can find their mark more often, and who wants to win more.. and that man was not him.