Prospects you wish would have been great

[ICB]

i was thinking about how many prospects look like they'll be a force to be reckoned with, but then either end up losing to not so great opposition or never end up being as good as you had hoped or thought they'd be, my personal pick is Fernando Vargas, many people are quick to say he was overrated, when honestly i say it was wrecked due to bad managing, the guy had it all, power, good boxing ability, heart, took risks (sometimes too many), was willing to fight everyone, and also could sell a fight easily. was wonderin if you guys could share your picks

But even if Fernando Vargas had been allowed to develop a bit more, could he have honestly ever have beaten ODLH, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley ?

I mean i understand what your saying and i agree somewhat, and he did impress me in his early fights especially against Winky Wright, but the point im making i don't think he could have ever have beaten the fighters i mentioned above.

[ElTerribleMorales]

i was thinking about how many prospects look like they'll be a force to be reckoned with, but then either end up losing to not so great opposition or never end up being as good as you had hoped or thought they'd be, my personal pick is Fernando Vargas, many people are quick to say he was overrated, when honestly i say it was wrecked due to bad managing, the guy had it all, power, good boxing ability, heart, took risks (sometimes too many), was willing to fight everyone, and also could sell a fight easily. was wonderin if you guys could share your picks

But even if Fernando Vargas had been allowed to develop a bit more, could he have honestly ever have beaten ODLH, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley ?

I mean i understand what your saying and i agree somewhat, and he did impress me in his early fights especially against Winky Wright, but the point im making i don't think he could have ever have beaten the fighters i mentioned above.

honestly, yes i do think he would have been able to beat them all, i mean he just needed to rack up more experience, and one thing i noticed re-watching Vargas' career is that after each loss a little bit more of him was gone, and i don't think it was as much physical as it was mental, i mean i know he has back probs, but i look at it this way, relatively un-experienced big fights and they throw him in against Trinidad, he gets dropped twice in the first round, yet gives him hell from there on out until getting stopped in the final round, if he was a bit more experienced he wouldn't of fallen into that trap and well get caught so easily, i think he would have been able to outbox Trinidad for the decision, and the DLH fight would have been the closest of the 3, cause honestly one eyed and i had him ahead in the Mosley fight, rematch well he gave a half assed effort IMO

[SaltyBacon]

mike anchondo before i was a big fan i use to beat every body with him on fight night then he went to espn and ktfo twice

also still a fan jeff lacy
jimrex jaca gave a hard time to jmm but has no chin

[Spicoli]

Anyone remember Angel Vasquez at feather/spr feather?Kid was supposed to be the next big thing with power,ranked in the top ten by all bodies and talked about for a shot at Hamed??Ran into perennial title challenger Victor Polo for an title eliminator dec. loss....followed by a KO defeat at the hands of a Ivan Valle........then quit?

What about Lamar Parks?Had some nice skills but everything was cut short after Johnson schooled him and 'health issues' I thought he would be around as champ.

[Violent Demise]

Anyone remember Angel Vasquez at feather/spr feather?Kid was supposed to be the next big thing with power,ranked in the top ten by all bodies and talked about for a shot at Hamed??Ran into perennial title challenger Victor Polo for an title eliminator dec. loss....followed by a KO defeat at the hands of a Ivan Valle........then quit?

What about Lamar Parks?Had some nice skills but everything was cut short after Johnson schooled him and 'health issues' I thought he would be around as champ.

I remember Vazquez. His fight with Valle was on ESPN I think. He got dropped and didn't even try and get up. Just stood on his knees. Never fought again. Thing with Vazquez was he was like 34 years old. I don't think his heart was really into Boxing any more after losing to Polo. I think he taught it was to long a road back at his age.

[Spicoli]

Anyone remember Angel Vasquez at feather/spr feather?Kid was supposed to be the next big thing with power,ranked in the top ten by all bodies and talked about for a shot at Hamed??Ran into perennial title challenger Victor Polo for an title eliminator dec. loss....followed by a KO defeat at the hands of a Ivan Valle........then quit?

What about Lamar Parks?Had some nice skills but everything was cut short after Johnson schooled him and 'health issues' I thought he would be around as champ.

I remember Vazquez. His fight with Valle was on ESPN I think. He got dropped and didn't even try and get up. Just stood on his knees. Never fought again. Thing with Vazquez was he was like 34 years old. I don't think his heart was really into Boxing any more after losing to Polo. I think he taught it was to long a road back at his age.

Exact,He looked too well fed and when pressured he crumbled.I think the princess would have played with him.

[Trainer Monkey]

Anyone remember Angel Vasquez at feather/spr feather?Kid was supposed to be the next big thing with power,ranked in the top ten by all bodies and talked about for a shot at Hamed??Ran into perennial title challenger Victor Polo for an title eliminator dec. loss....followed by a KO defeat at the hands of a Ivan Valle........then quit?

What about Lamar Parks?Had some nice skills but everything was cut short after Johnson schooled him and 'health issues' I thought he would be around as champ.

Those health issues,turned out to be HIV

[JazMerkin]

Even though he was before my time, Errol Christie would seem to be a shoo-in for this

[DAWGSWIN]

Not for the reasons given, but, Ike Ibeabuchi. I thought he was going to clean out the Heavyweight division.