A History Question for the Brits (English?)

[Trainer Monkey]

A) Yes the song is about the miners strike
B) Mr Empathy as allways Lyle,I got news for you Mr Bright New Jobs, apparantly Ive driven around your glorious new future state more then you have,because most of it is an impoverished S-hole. Some bright and glorious future. I love guys who are doing well off,saying a job(if your lucky) working at the Cracker Barrell so you can barely make payments on your double wide is a great and glorious future. Has it ever occured to you to look at it from the other guys point of view? Gee I worked my ass off for ten years at a union job,and even if it wasnt a fast track to the good life,it paid the bills,now Im trying to get by on what I make washing dishes at the truck stop?
Goes to show,those that view the entire world in terms of dollars and cents,usually dont have any sense.

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Interestingly enougth, the mines were making money, it was political, after the goverment got coal from Germany at £10 a ton dearer, work that one out

[JazMerkin]

Thatcher broke up communities and worked on a system that would cement many people in poverty for the rest of their lives. I may live in London, but there's no denying the damage that cow did to people living in the north of England.

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Interestingly enougth, the mines were making money, it was political, after the goverment got coal from Germany at £10 a ton dearer, work that one out

Political as in what? The unions need to be brought down a notch or two?

[Trainer Monkey]

Interestingly enougth, the mines were making money, it was political, after the goverment got coal from Germany at £10 a ton dearer, work that one out

Political as in what? The unions need to be brought down a notch or two?

Thats more or less what Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controlers,it wasnt that the demands couldnt have been easily met,it was to show they could do it.

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Interestingly enougth, the mines were making money, it was political, after the goverment got coal from Germany at £10 a ton dearer, work that one out

Political as in what? The unions need to be brought down a notch or two?

Thats more or less what Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controlers,it wasnt that the demands couldnt have been easily met,it was to show they could do it.

OK, I can see that, except in England miners case case if I read it right, there was some kind of political motive in shutting down the mines, some motive that existed befiore the strike ever got started? And I was hypothesizing that the unions were too powerful for Thatcher's liking even before the big strike. See the difference?

[JazMerkin]

Political as in what? The unions need to be brought down a notch or two?

Thats more or less what Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controlers,it wasnt that the demands couldnt have been easily met,it was to show they could do it.

OK, I can see that, except in England miners case case if I read it right, there was some kind of political motive in shutting down the mines, some motive that existed befiore the strike ever got started? And I was hypothesizing that the unions were too powerful for Thatcher's liking even before the big strike. See the difference?

There was fear over the Unions becoming too powerful & too great a force for the left. In the 70's they had said that Arthur Scargill, leader of the National Union of Mineworkers, had more clout than the Prime Minister. I think this is why Thatcher wanted to break them

[Trainer Monkey]

Oh there was a political motive behind the Reagan firings as well,it was like when a mobster hits another mobster,a not so nice way of saying,"See what I can do to you" as a way to keep the unions from actually pressuring for better pay,and better rights.
It was strike breaking on a goverment level