Papa Judah controls the kids. Most great champions with controling dads eventually grow up and "ask" dad to take a step to the side even if it strains the relationship for a while. "Super" Judah has not yet grown to that point in his relationship with his dad. They are as tight as they say and that's cool. You should see them in the gym together. They act like brothers. It is what it is but some think that Zab hasn't the confidence in himself that he shows in his public persona because his own dad hasn't set him fee to fly. Just the same... The relationship is sound and that may be more important to them than anything else. I wish my dad (the original Stanley Steemer) were still here with me today so he can help me with my lifes problems!!!