Holyfield on Joe Louis "I'd tear him up!"

[ICB]

In a recent interview with Esquire, Evander Holyfield made these following statements:

"Jesse Owens couldn't even make the Olympic team today. It's the same with boxing. I always just look at Joe Louis, I say, You know what, he kind of slow. I'd tear him up.

People say, Joe Louis had twenty-five consecutive wins as a champion. That's because they didn't have videotape. You couldn't pick up his style unless you was in there with him."

Evander Holyfield is acting like an idiot does he not realize the garbage running tracks, and the garbage running shoes runners had back in those days ? and they certainly didn't have dietitians, and all the supplements runners have to today. Plus steroids which most runners have now and you better believe it.

As for the Joe Louis comment again just pure hating right there, Evander Holyfield was a very good fighter but he also had his faults. He got wobbled badly against B level fighters like Alex Stewart, Bert Cooper.

He almost lost to an ancient Larry Holmes losing the last 3 rounds, and just eeking out a decision by 7-5. He also received a very tough fight against Michael Dokes who was years past his best. And he lost soundly to Riddick Bowe in his prime.

I always respected Evander Holyfield but im starting to dislike him, in the last few years. With all these steroid rumours, 9 illegitimate kids, and him keep fighting well past his best trying to convince us and himself he has something left.

Which he doesn't since 2000s his record is just ridiculous, 1-1-1 John Ruiz, 0-1 against a former Middleweight James Toney, 0-1 Chris Byrd, 0-1 Larry Donald, 0-1 Sultan Ibragimov, 0-1 Nikolai Valuev.

Now IMO he did deserve the win against Nikolai Valuev no question, but just have a look at that record its ridiculous his best win since 2000s is against Hasim Rahman, and even that was on a headbutt.

6-6-1 is his exact record since 2000s why doesn't he just quit ? im starting to lose the respect i used to have for him, and these comments right here don't sound like the Evander Holyfield i used to look up to.

[Beanflicker]

As for the Joe Louis comment again just pure hating right there, Evander Holyfield was a very good fighter but he also had his faults. He got wobbled badly against B level fighters like Alex Stewart, Bert Cooper.

True, but the fact that he got up and won speaks worlds about him.

Tons of ATGs have been hurt or dropped by mediocre opponents. Even Louis, he nearly got KO'd by that fat blob Tony Galento.

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Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

[Taeth]

Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

YOu can't assume all athletes take Steriods. Guys like Usain Bolt would beat any sprinter in any generation with or without modern techniques.

Louis wasn't that big, he was shorter than Holyfield, and weighed less than Holyfield did at heavy, we don't know how long Holyfield allegedly took steriods. If anything they were about the same size, but Holyfield is used to fighting really good fighters like Bowe, Lewis, Foreman who were way bigger than him.

[Taeth]

Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

Holyfield was taller and heavier than Louis, I don't see how you say he was smaller. The difference is that when Holyfield was a heavyweight there guys like Tyson, Lewis, Bowe who were way bigger than him, and still athletic, fast, and hit hard.

[ICB]

Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

I have to defend Evander Holyfield here it is unfair Mike Tyson is more well known and loved. Mike Tyson beat alot of stiffs and mostly everytime he stepped up and fought very good/great fighter he lost.

Mike Tyson was lucky he come along at that right time when boxing needed a star. And of course he had a massive punch which helped to promote him.

I enjoy watching Mike Tyson fights i watched a whole heap of them last week, but if you actually study up on his opposition. Its a pretty poor list of fighters, except for an old Larry Holmes, Light Heavyweight Michael Spinks.

And Evander Holyfield was very unlucky that Buster Douglas upset Mike Tyson, and he didn't get his shot. Because i think Mike Tyson was far enough gone at that time that Evander Holyfield could of took him.

And despite Evander Holyfield being a massive underdog against Mike Tyson in 1996, and only 1 sportwriter out of 42 picking Evander Holyfield. He still doesn't get credit for fighting a fine fight and whooping Mike Tyson which is very unfair. I think boxing fans are well too kind to Mike Tyson and make a ton of excuses for him.

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It is interesting to point out that Jesse Owens was not at all the top dog in the US at the time, apparently there was another guy who was clearly better, but he was injured and missed the Olympics. Forget his name though.

Back to the Louis thing, give him what Holyfield had to use, and it would be a different story. Surely Holyfield knows this.

[Violent Demise]

In a recent interview with Esquire, Evander Holyfield made these following statements:

"Jesse Owens couldn't even make the Olympic team today. It's the same with boxing. I always just look at Joe Louis, I say, You know what, he kind of slow. I'd tear him up.

People say, Joe Louis had twenty-five consecutive wins as a champion. That's because they didn't have videotape. You couldn't pick up his style unless you was in there with him."

Evander Holyfield is acting like an idiot does he not realize the garbage running tracks, and the garbage running shoes runners had back in those days ? and they certainly didn't have dietitians, and all the supplements runners have to today. Plus steroids which most runners have now and you better believe it.

As for the Joe Louis comment again just pure hating right there, Evander Holyfield was a very good fighter but he also had his faults. He got wobbled badly against B level fighters like Alex Stewart, Bert Cooper.

He almost lost to an ancient Larry Holmes losing the last 3 rounds, and just eeking out a decision by 7-5. He also received a very tough fight against Michael Dokes who was years past his best. And he lost soundly to Riddick Bowe in his prime.

I always respected Evander Holyfield but im starting to dislike him, in the last few years. With all these steroid rumours, 9 illegitimate kids, and him keep fighting well past his best trying to convince us and himself he has something left.

Which he doesn't since 2000s his record is just ridiculous, 1-1-1 John Ruiz, 0-1 against a former Middleweight James Toney, 0-1 Chris Byrd, 0-1 Larry Donald, 0-1 Sultan Ibragimov, 0-1 Nikolai Valuev.

Now IMO he did deserve the win against Nikolai Valuev no question, but just have a look at that record its ridiculous his best win since 2000s is against Hasim Rahman, and even that was on a headbutt.

6-6-1 is his exact record since 2000s why doesn't he just quit ? im starting to lose the respect i used to have for him, and these comments right here don't sound like the Evander Holyfield i used to look up to.

It happens. Galento and Braddock weren't better. They were C level. They dropped and hurt Louis. Conn a non-puncher at Light Heavyweight shook him pretty good.

I agree with Holyfield. I think he smashes Louis.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

In a recent interview with Esquire, Evander Holyfield made these following statements:

"Jesse Owens couldn't even make the Olympic team today. It's the same with boxing. I always just look at Joe Louis, I say, You know what, he kind of slow. I'd tear him up.

People say, Joe Louis had twenty-five consecutive wins as a champion. That's because they didn't have videotape. You couldn't pick up his style unless you was in there with him."

Evander Holyfield is acting like an idiot does he not realize the garbage running tracks, and the garbage running shoes runners had back in those days ? and they certainly didn't have dietitians, and all the supplements runners have to today. Plus steroids which most runners have now and you better believe it.

As for the Joe Louis comment again just pure hating right there, Evander Holyfield was a very good fighter but he also had his faults. He got wobbled badly against B level fighters like Alex Stewart, Bert Cooper.

He almost lost to an ancient Larry Holmes losing the last 3 rounds, and just eeking out a decision by 7-5. He also received a very tough fight against Michael Dokes who was years past his best. And he lost soundly to Riddick Bowe in his prime.

I always respected Evander Holyfield but im starting to dislike him, in the last few years. With all these steroid rumours, 9 illegitimate kids, and him keep fighting well past his best trying to convince us and himself he has something left.

Which he doesn't since 2000s his record is just ridiculous, 1-1-1 John Ruiz, 0-1 against a former Middleweight James Toney, 0-1 Chris Byrd, 0-1 Larry Donald, 0-1 Sultan Ibragimov, 0-1 Nikolai Valuev.

Now IMO he did deserve the win against Nikolai Valuev no question, but just have a look at that record its ridiculous his best win since 2000s is against Hasim Rahman, and even that was on a headbutt.

6-6-1 is his exact record since 2000s why doesn't he just quit ? im starting to lose the respect i used to have for him, and these comments right here don't sound like the Evander Holyfield i used to look up to.

It happens. Galento and Braddock weren't better. They were C level. They dropped and hurt Louis. Conn a non-puncher at Light Heavyweight shook him pretty good.

I agree with Holyfield. I think he smashes Louis.

Ditto.

Although i say that based purely taking each fighter as i see them. No considertion to training regime, diet regime and of course, Youtube lol.

[Trainer Monkey]

Stupid thing to say on many different levels.
As pointed out by others,athletes didnt have the training knowledge,let alone standards they do today,the Yankees once had to put out a story that Babe Ruth had "eaten too many hotdogs" for why he wasnt playing one day,yeah 12 ounce hotdogs in a chilled glass with a frothy foamy head on them. Micky Mantle played half of his career hung over as hell. Also there werent any,"athletes little helpers",so at the very least we know Louis wasnt on any form of juice,nobody can say that about Evander.
Longer rounds and less rules,not that Evander doesnt lean on the rules of boxing as they stand so hard you can hear them creak. But Louis had to fight in an era with more time in there,and less rules while you were in there.

And the main reason why it was stupid,what purpose does it serve? He wasnt specifically asked about Louis. Whats the point of dissing a dead legend? Is it going to get him fans? Is it going to make boxing historians rethink their position on Holyfield? Or will it just piss a bunch of people off?

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The more I see of Louis the more aI wish he was around today, he may have been a little methodical but fuck me did he just have raw power and very accurate to boot.

Ive boxed 18 amature matches and know what it feels like in your own fist and arm when you connect at the perfect distance, you feel a jarring right up your arm and in to your shoulders, you just know it landed perfect and you can see alot of his punches doing just that, whereas some like Holyfiled needs workrate, Louis could and probably would pick Holyfield apart when he comes in, making Holyfield alot more wary of that power and slow down to suit Louis.

Dont forget people that would probably be the same size if not smaller if they lost fat have hurt Holyfield, like Ruiz and Toney.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lnTDtqiYzww



A nice match up would be Jack Dempsey v Joe Louis, Louis was bigger but their styles would have made for a good scrap.