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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    I think Williams may have officially bitten off more than he can chew. At first I thought Williams would win this, but the more I think about it, the more I like Winky. So long as Winky doesn't look old, Paul will be fighting his most dangerous, hardest-hitting (I know, but it's true) opponent. Williams' only other opponent at 160 was a tomato can. He'll be getting hit with harder shots than Margarito threw from the simple fact that it's 13lbs heavier. I'm not saying Winky can knock him out, I don't, but those harder punches will have more effect. And you have to take into account that Williams likes to throw a lot of punches and he may be discouraged that 90+% may miss or be blocked. As impressive as he's been, Williams still looks very young in his approach. The kid is all guns ablazin', but he's facing an opponent who's a sharpshooter somewhere in the jungle. You got to find him while he's steadily picking you off.
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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    As of now, I agree with Killface. But, I haven't made up my mind completely.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    Winkys been off the radar for so long he's kind of fallen out of the scene.

    That's where his "better than thou" attitude took him.

    Not too interested in this, but does not seem like a good fight for Williams to take..really not much reward and Winky isnt the kind of fighter to pull in lots of ppv's

    I hope WWs inactivity and rust will lose it for him. PW is sitting high and losing to an old bitter winky is not going to help his career..fighting WW does not help anyones career..

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    The hate for Paul Williams is something I genuinely don't understand. He's never been hyped to the high heavens and he's ALWAYS willing to fight anyone and he's a very fun fighter to watch. I always hear about him being overhyped if anything he is underhyped imo. Really I don't get how people don't like him. He's got a good story, is a nice guy and willing to fight the best at 3 different divisions.

    This is tough, Williams has always had problems with southpaws, he's never faced someone with a weapon like Winky has with the jab. Winky is my favorite fighter in the world I'd like to believe he can win this it just depends on what condition he is in and if he can still stand in with the best.

    Interesting fight does anyone know where it will be held?

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    Personally I don't see how anyone could give paul Williams the win here based on his previous performances. Sure, winky has time and a long lay off against him, but seriously - look at the styles.

    Paul Williams has all these attributes but when has his reach ever meant anything? Paul, today, fights exactly like JT (a much harder hitter) but with higher volume. Paul drops his lead hand all fight (JT), throws loopy wide punches (JT), flicks his jab (JT) and has a tendency to hit the ropes when pressured (JT).

    JT with all his power couldn't break Winkys shell, i dont see pauls slaps doing much either. Paul gets hit WAY too much for him to be picked in this fight IMO, many jabs will land by winky. Winky will have had to have gotten very old over his layoff.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Personally I don't see how anyone could give paul Williams the win here based on his previous performances. Sure, winky has time and a long lay off against him, but seriously - look at the styles.

    Paul Williams has all these attributes but when has his reach ever meant anything? Paul, today, fights exactly like JT (a much harder hitter) but with higher volume. Paul drops his lead hand all fight (JT), throws loopy wide punches (JT), flicks his jab (JT) and has a tendency to hit the ropes when pressured (JT).

    JT with all his power couldn't break Winkys shell, i dont see pauls slaps doing much either. Paul gets hit WAY too much for him to be picked in this fight IMO, many jabs will land by winky. Winky will have had to have gotten very old over his layoff.
    I think you underestimate the ability of Williams here. Winky's layoff will cause him an issue. I see him being rusty in the early going, and his workrate being kinda low. Paul is likely to outland him and outwork him in the early going, and I see him keeping up a high enough workrate to wrack up the points leave Winky to push on in the latter rounds with it being too little too late. I just don't think you can have such a long layoff and go in with a young, active fighter who throws so many punches per round.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    oh yea. i cant wait.

    paul by UD but i wont count out winky, hes still a very good boxer

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Personally I don't see how anyone could give paul Williams the win here based on his previous performances. Sure, winky has time and a long lay off against him, but seriously - look at the styles.

    Paul Williams has all these attributes but when has his reach ever meant anything? Paul, today, fights exactly like JT (a much harder hitter) but with higher volume. Paul drops his lead hand all fight (JT), throws loopy wide punches (JT), flicks his jab (JT) and has a tendency to hit the ropes when pressured (JT).

    JT with all his power couldn't break Winkys shell, i dont see pauls slaps doing much either. Paul gets hit WAY too much for him to be picked in this fight IMO, many jabs will land by winky. Winky will have had to have gotten very old over his layoff.
    Actually, Taylor broke Winky's shell quite a bit, especially when they fought in the center of the ring. Winky's face was pretty swollen after the fight. Hell, even Sam Soliman touched up Winky quite a bit in their bout. He was already starting to slip a bit even before the layoff.

    One thing to keep in mind about Williams is the way he commits to body work. That is one area he will be able to score regularly on Winky and wear him down. I see a points win for Williams at this stage.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Personally I don't see how anyone could give paul Williams the win here based on his previous performances. Sure, winky has time and a long lay off against him, but seriously - look at the styles.

    Paul Williams has all these attributes but when has his reach ever meant anything? Paul, today, fights exactly like JT (a much harder hitter) but with higher volume. Paul drops his lead hand all fight (JT), throws loopy wide punches (JT), flicks his jab (JT) and has a tendency to hit the ropes when pressured (JT).

    JT with all his power couldn't break Winkys shell, i dont see pauls slaps doing much either. Paul gets hit WAY too much for him to be picked in this fight IMO, many jabs will land by winky. Winky will have had to have gotten very old over his layoff.
    Actually, Taylor broke Winky's shell quite a bit, especially when they fought in the center of the ring. Winky's face was pretty swollen after the fight. Hell, even Sam Soliman touched up Winky quite a bit in their bout. He was already starting to slip a bit even before the layoff.

    One thing to keep in mind about Williams is the way he commits to body work. That is one area he will be able to score regularly on Winky and wear him down. I see a points win for Williams at this stage.
    JT barely broke through at all he landed probably 20 clean punches that whole fight it's just that most were deflected. The only time JT had any success in that fight was when Winky would get flatfooted and stop moving forward behind his jab. IMO he beat Taylor fairly clearly if not obviously but whatever.

    Against Soliman Soliman was valliant but he landed nothing all he did was throw punches which turned Winky into more of a counterpuncher then he usually is.

    I think Intoccabile is just pointing out all those flaws that Williams as and how they relate to Jermain Taylor which isn't all that bad of a deal for Paul as it sounds imo. He's still a very good fighter but Winky is a great fighter, a great fighter who at his best or near his best would beat Paul Williams. I just worry about the layoff and Paul is peaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Personally I don't see how anyone could give paul Williams the win here based on his previous performances. Sure, winky has time and a long lay off against him, but seriously - look at the styles.

    Paul Williams has all these attributes but when has his reach ever meant anything? Paul, today, fights exactly like JT (a much harder hitter) but with higher volume. Paul drops his lead hand all fight (JT), throws loopy wide punches (JT), flicks his jab (JT) and has a tendency to hit the ropes when pressured (JT).

    JT with all his power couldn't break Winkys shell, i dont see pauls slaps doing much either. Paul gets hit WAY too much for him to be picked in this fight IMO, many jabs will land by winky. Winky will have had to have gotten very old over his layoff.
    Actually, Taylor broke Winky's shell quite a bit, especially when they fought in the center of the ring. Winky's face was pretty swollen after the fight. Hell, even Sam Soliman touched up Winky quite a bit in their bout. He was already starting to slip a bit even before the layoff.

    One thing to keep in mind about Williams is the way he commits to body work. That is one area he will be able to score regularly on Winky and wear him down. I see a points win for Williams at this stage.
    I didn't see Jermain Taylor land much solid punches against Winky Wright, although i do agree he broke through the guard successfully quite a few times. I don't think Paul Williams would have that same kind of success though.

    Paul Williams should go to the body he was hitting Vernon Phillips around the side of the ribs, very well and Vernon Phillips was at times holding his hands high in a similar way to Winky Wright.

    Obviously nowhere near as good as Winky Wright, but i think body shots will be the key here. And lastly as for Sam Soliman did he virtually land 1 solid hard punch all night against Winky Wright ?

    Because all i see was Sam Soliman throwing punches like a windmill, missing most of his punches and when he did land his punches were soft because they were arm punches, i thought Winky Wright dealt with Sam Soliman quite comfortably, although he lost a few rounds when he done virtually nothing in the round, and let the busier guy steal the rounds.

    The problem is here im not sure who i should root for i think Paul Williams winning is better for boxing, because he has alot of fights ahead of him where as Winky Wright doesn't. But i've always mostly rooted for Winky Wright against every opponent he's fought, and Winky Wright is one of my favorite modern fighters. And i would love to see him get a big win considering he had to fight all over the world alot in his early career.
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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by intoccabile View Post
    Personally I don't see how anyone could give paul Williams the win here based on his previous performances. Sure, winky has time and a long lay off against him, but seriously - look at the styles.

    Paul Williams has all these attributes but when has his reach ever meant anything? Paul, today, fights exactly like JT (a much harder hitter) but with higher volume. Paul drops his lead hand all fight (JT), throws loopy wide punches (JT), flicks his jab (JT) and has a tendency to hit the ropes when pressured (JT).

    JT with all his power couldn't break Winkys shell, i dont see pauls slaps doing much either. Paul gets hit WAY too much for him to be picked in this fight IMO, many jabs will land by winky. Winky will have had to have gotten very old over his layoff.
    Actually, Taylor broke Winky's shell quite a bit, especially when they fought in the center of the ring. Winky's face was pretty swollen after the fight. Hell, even Sam Soliman touched up Winky quite a bit in their bout. He was already starting to slip a bit even before the layoff.

    One thing to keep in mind about Williams is the way he commits to body work. That is one area he will be able to score regularly on Winky and wear him down. I see a points win for Williams at this stage.
    Taylor barely broke anything. You should watch more Winky fights.
    Since when is winkys face NOT swollen after a fight? Sam Soliman swelled his face up too as did Quertey. That's what happens when your own gloves are hit into your face for 12 rounds.

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    Default Re: Paul Williams-Winky Wright is ON for April

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer View Post
    Winkys been off the radar for so long he's kind of fallen out of the scene.

    That's where his "better than thou" attitude took him.

    Not too interested in this, but does not seem like a good fight for Williams to take..really not much reward and Winky isnt the kind of fighter to pull in lots of ppv's

    I hope WWs inactivity and rust will lose it for him. PW is sitting high and losing to an old bitter winky is not going to help his career..fighting WW does not help anyones career..

    fighting winky will give williams much more worldwide attention than fighting verno phillips!!

    I agree its a lose lose in terms of PW`s career progression as he`s fighting an awkward opponent who not many believe should give him problems but indeed will do.

    But if he does manage to come out of it with a "W" to his record then it shoots PW right up the list of top middleweights and guarantees him a couple of big paydays ahead!
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