We've had this talk before TitoFanOriginally Posted by TitoFan
I'm gonna stand by my opinion. Among the world's elite, you'll see many of them at the 40, 50 or 60 win mark toward the end of their careers. Many of them begin fighting world-class competition around their 20th fight. When you look at JCC's record, and believe me... I have, the thing that jumps out at you is that he fought maybe 2 or 3 fighters with winning records in his first 40-some fights. And all of them in Mexico. Not exactly a roaring start. Again, not dissing the man. But I like to keep a little perspective.Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Ha ha ha ha!! this can be seen in many or all of boxers records such as Arguello, Duran, even your own Gomez for his 5th defense of his WBC Super Bantam title he fought Sakad Petchyindee with a record of 2-0-0, he then followed it fighting for his 10th defense against Julio Hernandez who was 2-8-0 it happens in the sport all the greats have done itOriginally Posted by TitoFan
So, although I'm not a walking boxing encyclopedia, I have been around the forum for about a year now, and like to do my research as well. For example, I've chronicled fairly well the statistics that lead me to believe that the great Mexican fighter, Julio Cesar Chavez, although great in his own right, has had his legend overblown with the outrageous numbers that come with fighting tomato cans well into his 40th fight. Not to take away from the man, but facts are facts.![]()
I'll stand by mine and say that they are all guilty of doing this....


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