Has Any Fighter In Recent Memory Fought As Many Quality Fighters In A Row Than JMM ?

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I actually think his resume is rather unremarkable considering his exalted standing in the p4p rankings.

Yes Manny Pacquaio and Chris John are top opponents but he lost to both them, whatever the circumstances. Rocky Juarez is a perrenial loser to top level opposition having been previously beaten by Barrera twice and Humberto Soto. Joel Casamayor was completely shot.

Jandaeng was a prospect nothing more, Guzman and Lueveno have both beaten him. Victor Polo was nothing special in elite terms having failed previously 4 times in world title bouts and Jimrex Jaca is a complete nobody who Marquez made one hell of a meal out of. He hasn't won any of his last 5 fights, an appalling opponent for a number 2 rated fighter imo.

It actually really annoys me that Marquez is rated at number 2 in the p4p ahead of Calzaghe whose last six opponents are leaps and bounds better and he won them all

Joes last six, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Jones Jr.

And he won all six. His resume pisses all over Marquez's last six imo.

Jimrex Jaca doesn't even come up to the level of a Tocker Podwill.

Bilbo we could also easily do this with Joe Calzaghe's opposition.

Roy Jones = Completely shot much more so than Joel Casamayor, Roy Jones's last good performance was in 2002.

Peter Manfredo = Thats got to be a joke right ?

Jeff Lacy = Overhyped young champion who since his loss to Joe Calzaghe, has got 2 gift decisions against C class fighters, and was recently smacked around by Jermain Taylor.

Sakio Bika = Not a bad fighter but he did get a gift against Sam Soliman, and went life and death with Jaidon Codrington, who is a B class opponent at best. Sakio Bika hasn't done that much he also got whooped by Lucian Bute, Sakio Bika has not beaten 1 elite fighter yet.

The only ones i'll give you are Mikkel Kessler who you could also say, hadn't really beaten anyone when he fought Joe Calzaghe. And Bernard Hopkins was 43 but he is still top notch fighter so Joe Calzaghe does deserve credit, but i didn't think he even won the fight.

And had it been against a younger Bernard Hopkins who was KO'ing his opponents, instead of outboxing them to boring decisions, then i personally don't think Joe Calzaghe would of won, i don't think he even won against the 43 year old version.

Jones is one of the greatest fighters of all time, he was past his best but no more so against Joe than Casa was against Marquez, and less than Oscar was against Manny.

Lacy and Kessler were both arguably p4p stars when Calzaghe beat them, if they wern't in the Ring top 10 then neither was outside the top 12 certainly much better opposition than Casamayor, Jaca, Polo and Jandaeng.

Chris John is only really heralded becuase he got a win over Marquez, aside from that result he's done nothing of real significance.

Marquez's best opponent was Manny and he lost, just he did to Chris John.

Sure you can argue that in your opinion he should of won but it doesn't change the fact that he lost them both wheras Calzaghe has beaten everybody in his last 6 fights.

Nobody can convince me that wins over Jaca, Jandaeng, Casamayor and Polo along with defeats to John and Pacquaio is a better resume than going 6-0 against Lacy, Manfredo, Bika, Kessler, Hopkins and Jones Jr.

Aside from Manfredo all 5 of the rest represent tough opposition. If you really think Jandaeng, Polo and Jaca top that lot, none of whom have even won an alphabet strap let alone been considered one of the champs in the division or a p4p star then you are just blinded by your Calzaghe hatred.

Sorry but please Bilbo do not even compare Joel Casamayor/Roy Jones, Joel Casamayor wern't at his best granted. But he still fought very good against JMM. And was pretty even with him until he got KO'ed in the 11th round.

Joel Casamayor had never been KO'ed and was the ring champion, what had RJJ done since 2003 ? his record since the John Ruiz fight is 3-4 he went life and death with a mediocre opponent like Anthony Hanshaw, KO'ed twice by Glen Johnson/Antonio Tarver. And lost 4 rounds to a blown up Welterweight who had been retired since 2005.

If you honestly think Joel Casamayor/Roy Jones are in the same class regarding, how shot they were then im speechless i really am. And sorry i don't think Jeff Lacy/Sakio Bika/Shot RJJ/Peter Manfredo are in Chris John's class.

Chris John is 42-0 and has made 9 title defenses, granted some of his opponents are questionable. But he is still a very good fighter, and JMM did deserve a win against him. I don't think you've seen that fight Bilbo, theres no question JMM deserved that win.

By atleast 3 rounds it was a hometown decision and anyone who saw it, knows JMM won that fight no question. It wasn't like the 2 Manny Pacquiao fights which could of gone either way.

Im not trying to say fighters like Victor Polo are world class operator's. But there still goodish opponents, and mixed in with guys like MAB, Manny Pacquiao, Rocky Juarez, Joel Casamayor, all in a row non stop and considering in all those 8 fights.

4 of them were at Featherweight, 3 at Super Featherweight. And 1 at Lightweight adds to the challenge does it not ? which makes it even more impressive.

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