Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win

[Memphis]

David Haye right now is an in shape Sam Peter nothing more. .

By that token you must give him a very good chance against Wlad then?

[El Kabong]

By that token you must give him a very good chance against Wlad then?

Considering Wlad's mental state when he fought Sam Peter and his mental state now......HELL NO.

Sam Peter fought a Wladimir Klitschko who didn't know if he could take a punch, who didn't know if he could last the distance, who didn't feel comfortable in the ring....David Haye will fight someone who KNOWS he is the best and at the peak of his game.

[rjj tszyu]

By that token you must give him a very good chance against Wlad then?

Considering Wlad's mental state when he fought Sam Peter and his mental state now......HELL NO.

Sam Peter fought a Wladimir Klitschko who didn't know if he could take a punch, who didn't know if he could last the distance, who didn't feel comfortable in the ring....David Haye will fight someone who KNOWS he is the best and at the peak of his game.

I agree with most of what your saying. Wlads defeats have made him a more formidmable opponent because he will not leave his chin out lightly anymore and he is probably at his peak right now and is the best HW until someone beats him BUT Haye is certainly no Sam Peter. Peter proved against Vitali he had no heart and no matter what you say about Haye he has plenty of that. Also Haye's Boxing skills are lightyears ahead of Peter's as I believe is his punch power and accuracy.

[El Kabong]

Sam Peter never had the "goods" he had power but he thought too much of it and never honed his skill. Right now David Haye is following the same path.

David Haye has in his amateur career and his pro career so far been able to get by on his handspeed and power. Haye hasn't had to fight anyone bigger than himself, Haye hasn't had to fight anyone stronger than himself, Haye hasn't had to fight anyone more powerful than himself, and Haye hasn't had to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat vs Wladimir Klitschko he's going to have to basically do all of those things for the first time ever.

Wladimir is a tested heavyweight champion, he has the best jab that I can remember it may be on par or even better than Larry Holmes' jab, Wladimir has lost only 3 times in 55 total fights and he's won 52 of those fights and 46 of those wins coming by way of KO and most of those wins were against bigger and more experienced fighters than Haye.

To quote Manny Steward "We're going to introduce him to big time boxing"...that's exactly what Manny said before Wlad fought Sam Peter and right now I see Haye exactly where Sam Peter was only David Haye has already shown MORE weakness than Sam Peter had by that time. David Haye has proven NOTHING to me and when Wlad beats him up people will finally say "Haye didn't have enough experience"...just remember I called it beforehand

[rjj tszyu]

Sam Peter never had the "goods" he had power but he thought too much of it and never honed his skill. Right now David Haye is following the same path.

David Haye has in his amateur career and his pro career so far been able to get by on his handspeed and power. Haye hasn't had to fight anyone bigger than himself, Haye hasn't had to fight anyone stronger than himself, Haye hasn't had to fight anyone more powerful than himself, and Haye hasn't had to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat vs Wladimir Klitschko he's going to have to basically do all of those things for the first time ever.

Wladimir is a tested heavyweight champion, he has the best jab that I can remember it may be on par or even better than Larry Holmes' jab, Wladimir has lost only 3 times in 55 total fights and he's won 52 of those fights and 46 of those wins coming by way of KO and most of those wins were against bigger and more experienced fighters than Haye.

To quote Manny Steward "We're going to introduce him to big time boxing"...that's exactly what Manny said before Wlad fought Sam Peter and right now I see Haye exactly where Sam Peter was only David Haye has already shown MORE weakness than Sam Peter had by that time. David Haye has proven NOTHING to me and when Wlad beats him up people will finally say "Haye didn't have enough experience"...just remember I called it beforehand

I'll remember for sure, when I'm taking all your rep points that is.