Haye would Steamroll Areolla

[rjj tszyu]

Haye is fast. But he's careless. He's not hard to hit. And his power at Heavyweight is overrated. It took him what 5 rounds to put Barrett away? Cliff Couser did it in 2. Arreola crushes him in 2 or 3 rounds. The fight would mirror Arreola-Walker. Haye would start fast. Land some punches. Than he'll go sleep.

Arreola power + Haye chin = Haye flat on his back

Didn't it take Wlad 7 rounds?

Cris Arreola isn't a guy who seems to be in great shape but he's a tough fighter and he's got some good power and a good chin. I HEAR he can box but I have never seen him do it.

You're using Haye's win over Monte Barrett to build up your argument and you don't even begin to recognize that Monte has NEVER been a top teir fighter and it's been even longer since he's truly been competitive in this weightclass vs decent opposition. And Haye got knocked down in that fight!!!!


I'm tired of the David Haye hype machine...he's fought 2 lackluster heavyweights and he's already crying for a title shot. I can't wait for Wlad to whip Haye's ass and ruin Haye's career....he won't be the same, trust me

Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.

[El Kabong]

Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.

I'm not talking up Wlad like he's invincible, he definently has his flaws however NOBODY has the skill to expose them at this time.

Let's go through Wlad's losses....

Ross Purrity, Wlad was young (22) and thought he could KO everyone which he had done to all but 3 guys he had beaten up to that point. Not only was this fight the first in which Wlad had to go more than 8 rounds it was a 12 round fight! Wlad punched himself out, he didn't pace himself and part of what is to blame was his training which focused on lifting weights and cardio and almost no sparring.

Corrie Sanders, #1 Corrie is a southpaw #2 Corrie is a power puncher you don't usually fight that many southpaws and you damn sure don't fight that many power punching southpaws and pair that along with the disappointment with Lennox Lewis choosing to basically force Wlad to have a tune up fight to stay busy and Wlad wanting to make a statement he was reckless and careless and underestimated the danger that was Corrie Sanders who could have shocked ANYONE at that point in his career.

Lamon Brewster, having just changed trainers and trying too hard to impress everyone and not focusing on the task at had Wlad handed out a BEAT DOWN for 4 rounds to Lamon and honestly Wlad took some horrific shots in that fight and stayed on his feet. Wlad wasn't right mentally for the fight and wasn't really right until he fought Sam Peter because that was his "last shot" at that point in time it seemed as if he'd either beat Sam Peter or retire from boxing.

Now David Haye has shown up vs some bums and has beens and he's been floored an awful lot and he has also slept on some guys and done EXACTLY what Wlad did and punched himself out vs an old vet. Do I think Haye can beat Wlad the way Purrity and Brewster did? HELL NO !!! Haye MAY be able to shock Wlad with a good strong combination but honestly who has landed many combinations on Wladimir recently? And does Haye's power carry up?? Sure he KO'd Barrett and Bonin but those were the expected results AND Barret floored Haye!!!! I am sorry, I just don't see David Haye as any better as Sam Peter was when Wlad fought him and now since Wlad and Manny have built a good thing and Wlad is in a good state mentally that means Haye doesn't have much of a shot especially if he can't make the jab ineffective.

Haye hasn't fought a top 10 heavyweight and already you fanboys have him beating THE MAN of the division....can we say AUDLEY HARRISON?

[rjj tszyu]

Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.

I'm not talking up Wlad like he's invincible, he definently has his flaws however NOBODY has the skill to expose them at this time.

Let's go through Wlad's losses....

Ross Purrity, Wlad was young (22) and thought he could KO everyone which he had done to all but 3 guys he had beaten up to that point. Not only was this fight the first in which Wlad had to go more than 8 rounds it was a 12 round fight! Wlad punched himself out, he didn't pace himself and part of what is to blame was his training which focused on lifting weights and cardio and almost no sparring.

Corrie Sanders, #1 Corrie is a southpaw #2 Corrie is a power puncher you don't usually fight that many southpaws and you damn sure don't fight that many power punching southpaws and pair that along with the disappointment with Lennox Lewis choosing to basically force Wlad to have a tune up fight to stay busy and Wlad wanting to make a statement he was reckless and careless and underestimated the danger that was Corrie Sanders who could have shocked ANYONE at that point in his career.

Lamon Brewster, having just changed trainers and trying too hard to impress everyone and not focusing on the task at had Wlad handed out a BEAT DOWN for 4 rounds to Lamon and honestly Wlad took some horrific shots in that fight and stayed on his feet. Wlad wasn't right mentally for the fight and wasn't really right until he fought Sam Peter because that was his "last shot" at that point in time it seemed as if he'd either beat Sam Peter or retire from boxing.

Now David Haye has shown up vs some bums and has beens and he's been floored an awful lot and he has also slept on some guys and done EXACTLY what Wlad did and punched himself out vs an old vet. Do I think Haye can beat Wlad the way Purrity and Brewster did? HELL NO !!! Haye MAY be able to shock Wlad with a good strong combination but honestly who has landed many combinations on Wladimir recently? And does Haye's power carry up?? Sure he KO'd Barrett and Bonin but those were the expected results AND Barret floored Haye!!!! I am sorry, I just don't see David Haye as any better as Sam Peter was when Wlad fought him and now since Wlad and Manny have built a good thing and Wlad is in a good state mentally that means Haye doesn't have much of a shot especially if he can't make the jab ineffective.

Haye hasn't fought a top 10 heavyweight and already you fanboys have him beating THE MAN of the division....can we say AUDLEY HARRISON?

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

[El Kabong]

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?

[smashup]

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?

F*cks sakes Lyle WATCH THE FOOTAGE....
Anyone with even a 10th of ONE eyeball working can see Davids feet slide from underneath him.
You must have seen a different camera angle from Wladsasstv

[El Kabong]

....he wouldn't have "slipped" if Monte didn't bounce a punch off his head. I never said Haye was hurt but you fight in an off balance manner and that type of thing is bound to happen and a guy like Wlad is going to just hammer the crap out of Haye if he continues to fight that way.

[Fenster]

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?

He's been knockdown by a SUPERMIDDLE too - Lolenga Mock.

You can add him to the next 100 threads this week when you mention Haye's suspect chin

[HattonTheHammer]

beating arreola in sparring and beating him in a fight is a whole world of difference.

No offence to cristobel but i could probably run rings shadow boxing him

yet put him in the ring and let his fists do the talking and its a whole different story.


for what its worth i believe haye would batter him still!!!

[rjj tszyu]

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?

The fat slob Peter floored Wlad about 4 times didn't he? This thread is making me sound like I hate Wlad but that couldn't be further from the truth. I just think Lyle's love for him is making making him overrate him!

[ICB]

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

OK fine...he hit the canvas and the reason was Monte Barrett but if you don't want to call it a knockdown then fine by me, he has been knocked down by cruiserweights Mormeck and Thompson, does that make you feel better?

The fat slob Peter floored Wlad about 4 times didn't he? This thread is making me sound like I hate Wlad but that couldn't be further from the truth. I just think Lyle's love for him is making making him overrate him!

He floored him 3 times but only one out of those 3 knockdowns were legit.