did america really value Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank

[porkypara]

Apart from the odd journey stateside from nigel and a trip or 2 into europe from eubank they exclusively only ever fought in the UK and thus lost out on a huge following stateside.

But growing up i was exclusively brought up around these 2 fighters (along with bruno) believing they were the best of the best as its all we really ever had in britain up until the introduction of cable TV

Did america ever really give the due dillegence to these 2 guys and what they acheived inside the ring

IMO most American fans did not rate Benn or Ebank coz they think a fighter has to fight on US soil to prove there worth.

[CGM]

I think a guy like Eubank would have received a lot more attention in North America if he had fought just about anywhere else than the WBO Super-Middleweight Division. Sure fighting stateside might have helped his profile in the US, but having high profile Americans to fight is the real issue, not where they fight. Example: Alan Minter had a fairly high profile in North America

[OumaFan]

Americans are so stupid.

Benn did fight here, five or six times, the Barkley one obviously. I think most boxing fans, Americans or not, see Benn for what he was, a good very exciting fighter, that had some limitations but its not like he's "not rated", obviously everyone that was a serious boxing fan saw the Barkley fight, the Eubank fights, the McClellan fight.

Eubank the same, rated, probably higher in some ways than Benn but maybe didn't have the wars that Benn did, outside of the Eubank-Benn fights obviously. As far as "did we really value" them, I'm not even sure what that means but there both thought of as good fighters.

[DaxxKahn]

Americans are so stupid.

Benn did fight here, five or six times, the Barkley one obviously. I think most boxing fans, Americans or not, see Benn for what he was, a good very exciting fighter, that had some limitations but its not like he's "not rated", obviously everyone that was a serious boxing fan saw the Barkley fight, the Eubank fights, the McClellan fight.

Eubank the same, rated, probably higher in some ways than Benn but maybe didn't have the wars that Benn did, outside of the Eubank-Benn fights obviously. As far as "did we really value" them, I'm not even sure what that means but there both thought of as good fighters.

Americans are stupid?

So stupid we kicked your asses in the Revolutionary war and protected your sorry asses in WW2 from being ass fucked by the Germans

[ICB]

Americans are so stupid.

Benn did fight here, five or six times, the Barkley one obviously. I think most boxing fans, Americans or not, see Benn for what he was, a good very exciting fighter, that had some limitations but its not like he's "not rated", obviously everyone that was a serious boxing fan saw the Barkley fight, the Eubank fights, the McClellan fight.

Eubank the same, rated, probably higher in some ways than Benn but maybe didn't have the wars that Benn did, outside of the Eubank-Benn fights obviously. As far as "did we really value" them, I'm not even sure what that means but there both thought of as good fighters.

Americans are stupid?

So stupid we kicked your asses in the Revolutionary war and protected your sorry asses in WW2 from being ass fucked by the Germans

Revolutionary War was actually more/less a draw so i heard, and you guys only entered WW2 because you got bombed, not because you was saving are asses. And no one country saved anyone's asses, pretty silly logic there Daxx. Im being sarcastic by the way and isn't Oumafan American anyway ?

[DaxxKahn]

Americans are so stupid.

Benn did fight here, five or six times, the Barkley one obviously. I think most boxing fans, Americans or not, see Benn for what he was, a good very exciting fighter, that had some limitations but its not like he's "not rated", obviously everyone that was a serious boxing fan saw the Barkley fight, the Eubank fights, the McClellan fight.

Eubank the same, rated, probably higher in some ways than Benn but maybe didn't have the wars that Benn did, outside of the Eubank-Benn fights obviously. As far as "did we really value" them, I'm not even sure what that means but there both thought of as good fighters.

Americans are stupid?

So stupid we kicked your asses in the Revolutionary war and protected your sorry asses in WW2 from being ass fucked by the Germans

Revolutionary War was actually more/less a draw so i heard, and you guys only entered WW2 because you got bombed, not because you was saving are asses. And no one country saved anyone's asses, pretty silly logic there Daxx. Im being sarcastic by the way and isn't Oumafan American anyway ?

I am not in anyway serious with what I said just stirring the pot mate...(why I say that word is beyone me I am from NY but from posting here it has become a habit)....Don't know where Ouma is from TBH....Don't care.........


BTW Cotton Hill would argue all of your points when it came to war....Actually he is the one I got the comments from..

[ICB]

Americans are stupid?

So stupid we kicked your asses in the Revolutionary war and protected your sorry asses in WW2 from being ass fucked by the Germans

Revolutionary War was actually more/less a draw so i heard, and you guys only entered WW2 because you got bombed, not because you was saving are asses. And no one country saved anyone's asses, pretty silly logic there Daxx. Im being sarcastic by the way and isn't Oumafan American anyway ?

I am not in anyway serious with what I said just stirring the pot mate...(why I say that word is beyone me I am from NY but from posting here it has become a habit)....Don't know where Ouma is from TBH....Don't care.........


BTW Cotton Hill would argue all of your points when it came to war....Actually he is the one I got the comments from..

Me too Daxx plus i haven't got a clue about history, i left school at 16. And the last time i probably took history serious was probably when i was 14, so you don't need to pull out any quotes or ETC, because its a safe bet im wrong

[DaxxKahn]

Revolutionary War was actually more/less a draw so i heard, and you guys only entered WW2 because you got bombed, not because you was saving are asses. And no one country saved anyone's asses, pretty silly logic there Daxx. Im being sarcastic by the way and isn't Oumafan American anyway ?

I am not in anyway serious with what I said just stirring the pot mate...(why I say that word is beyone me I am from NY but from posting here it has become a habit)....Don't know where Ouma is from TBH....Don't care.........


BTW Cotton Hill would argue all of your points when it came to war....Actually he is the one I got the comments from..

Me too Daxx plus i haven't got a clue about history, i left school at 16. And the last time i probably took history serious was probably when i was 14, so you don't need to pull out any quotes or ETC, because its a safe bet im wrong

Cotton Hill is a TV cartoon from the show King of the Hill..
http://origin.fox.com/kingofthehill/bios/cotton.htm

He is an ex war vet who had his shins shot off in WW2

they were actually comparing him and another charechter Peggy to John McCain and Sara Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9dq159XFYk

[Fenster]

Americans are so stupid.

Benn did fight here, five or six times, the Barkley one obviously. I think most boxing fans, Americans or not, see Benn for what he was, a good very exciting fighter, that had some limitations but its not like he's "not rated", obviously everyone that was a serious boxing fan saw the Barkley fight, the Eubank fights, the McClellan fight.

Eubank the same, rated, probably higher in some ways than Benn but maybe didn't have the wars that Benn did, outside of the Eubank-Benn fights obviously. As far as "did we really value" them, I'm not even sure what that means but there both thought of as good fighters.

Americans are stupid?

So stupid we kicked your asses in the Revolutionary war and protected your sorry asses in WW2 from being ass fucked by the Germans

What part of the UK is OumaFan from?

[Trainer Monkey]

Two fighters who rarely got seen on live free TV, in an unpopular at the time division, who had the majority of their career happen before you could just stream fights.
You cant underappreciate what you cannot see

[DaxxKahn]

With all the Americans are stupid sillyness aside....I don't think it was so much on they were not appreciated it has to do with marketing and promoters...lack of cable TV etc....If there was PPV or HBO/Showtime in every home back then like today American audiences would have seen more of them to actually appreciate...

Also back in the day when Chris was in hisn prime we had our own stars on the rise and the HW scene had Tyson, Holyfield etc.....

Today they woukd be both huge stars

[Hulk]

I'm 21 now and began watching boxing when I was around 12 or 13. Before coming on this forum 3 years ago, I had never even heard of Nigel Benn or Chris Eubank.

But since hearing about them and seeing the Benn vs. Barkley fight, and some more of him on youtube, I decided to order his career set last week, and I've watched most of his fights on there and I love the guy.

Nigel Benn was an animal with one punch KO power in either hand and a warrior's heart.

Also his fight with Eubank proved that Chris could take a hell of a shot and box very well.

Crazy that Joe Calzaghe dropped Eubank within the first 10 seconds like that.

[OumaFan]

haha, I'm American.

I don't know why, I just didn't assume anyone would take that seriously.

[Fenster]

haha, I'm American.

I don't know why, I just didn't assume anyone would take that seriously.

Clearly Ouma, you're the most Un-American American on the site.

I think you should invest in taking American lessons.

I'll speak to Lyle, Daxx and Rozzysean for ya

[ICB]

Apart from the odd journey stateside from nigel and a trip or 2 into europe from eubank they exclusively only ever fought in the UK and thus lost out on a huge following stateside.

But growing up i was exclusively brought up around these 2 fighters (along with bruno) believing they were the best of the best as its all we really ever had in britain up until the introduction of cable TV

Did america ever really give the due dillegence to these 2 guys and what they acheived inside the ring

IMO most American fans did not rate Benn or Ebank coz they think a fighter has to fight on US soil to prove there worth.

But Nigel Benn did prove his worth on USA soil, beating dangerous guys like Iran Barkey, Doug DeWitt, he also beat the top American fighter Gerald McClellan.