----- Obama Wins ------

[CFH]

I've had enough of people bashing George W. Bush.....being tired of the President after 8 years is the NORM and not the exception. Look at when Clinton was on the way out, lots of people didn't like him and they were tired of his antics and I am sure Obama will find out that he won't always get a free pass just because he's black and he can spout off nonsensical bull crap about hope and change.

George W. Bush wasn't a great President but he wasn't the worst either and I say that seriously. He did what he thought was right at the time looking back it doesn't seem like a great idea but other Presidents have done worse: Bay of Pigs, Gulf of Tonkin, Somalia, the USS Cole, the Maine, Whiskey Rebellion, Internment camps for the Japanese.....etc etc etc.

Very few of those things are worse than what Bush has done.

[El Kabong]

Very few of those things are worse than what Bush has done.

Being threatened with nuclear missles that were 90 miles away wasn't bad?

The Vietnam War wasn't bad? last time I checked more people were killed in that little political flub than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

Internment Camps for a specific group of people wasn't bad The German Americans didn't get put in camps.

But oh well.....I won't try to change your mind.

[CFH]

Very few of those things are worse than what Bush has done.

Being threatened with nuclear missles that were 90 miles away wasn't bad?

The Vietnam War wasn't bad? last time I checked more people were killed in that little political flub than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

Internment Camps for a specific group of people wasn't bad The German Americans didn't get put in camps.

But oh well.....I won't try to change your mind.

Where did I say those weren't bad things?

Many of the Bush administrations actions are on par with those things.

[El Kabong]

Where did I say those weren't bad things?

Many of the Bush administrations actions are on par with those things.

I think Vietnam FAAAAAAAR surpasses Iraq in means of stupidity and ineptitude. But you're a humble liberal and you won't accept LBJ's credit for his horrible mistake at the Gulf of Tonkin

[CFH]

Where did I say those weren't bad things?

Many of the Bush administrations actions are on par with those things.

I think Vietnam FAAAAAAAR surpasses Iraq in means of stupidity and ineptitude. But you're a humble liberal and you won't accept LBJ's credit for his horrible mistake at the Gulf of Tonkin

Vietnam is just Iraq on a larger scale. They're both terrible. Just because there was a higher body count in Vietnam doesn't reduce the stupidity of Iraq. Both are criminal acts.

As for the LBJ comment, there's a difference between a liberal and a Democrat - not that I'd expect you to understand that. Actually, I'm sure you do understand that, I just don't expect you to acknowledge it. Not everything thing has to involve partisanship; I loathe the Democrats only slightly less than the Republicans. I hate what both of your political parties stand for.

[Trainer Monkey]

Where did I say those weren't bad things?

Many of the Bush administrations actions are on par with those things.

I think Vietnam FAAAAAAAR surpasses Iraq in means of stupidity and ineptitude. But you're a humble liberal and you won't accept LBJ's credit for his horrible mistake at the Gulf of Tonkin

Who sent the first "advisors" to Vietnam
That would be Eisenhower
Who told Kennedy at his inauguration "Son I think your going to have to send troops in there",Eisenhower again
And whats sad is thats probably the best Republican president of the 20th century