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I don't think Cintron's power is overrated at all, he has the heaviest hands at 147 imo. I do think Martinez's workrate is going to frustrate him though. I'm going with Martinez by wide UD.
I do think he has heavy hands no doubt but his power is a tad overrated IMO, Jesse Felicano was KO'ed in 4 rounds against light hitting Demetrius Hopkins. And he was also stopped in 1 round getting dropped 3 times against lighting hitting Mike Arnaoutis.

Yet Kermit Cintron never come close to putting Jesse Feliciano down, despite hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. He also recently couldn't stop the smaller Lovemore N'dou, Lovemore N'dou is tough but you would expect he would of stopped the smaller Lovemore N'dou, who spent all his career below Welterweight.
I have not seen the Hopkins fight was it a clean KO?
The Arnoutis fight, Feliciano was definately not himself, I mean look at the shots landed by Tsurken and Cintron they were much stronger shots and better leverage.

Honestly Feliciano and N'Dou have some of the best whiskers in the biz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPEVGlJ7wQ
I'm largely in sync with your thinking Killersheep, except your final prediction (and I admit I don't know much about Martinez except for his record and "big" win in his last fight (and Cintron is perceived as overhyped?). Let's remember that in the Feliciano fight, Kerm was on the canvas writhing in pain after the TKO-- claiming he fought 10 rounds having hurt his thunderous right in the first, if not first punch. Was the injury overstated? Perhaps, but perhaps it really was a gutsy/courageous peformance demonstrating once and for all that Kerm has "heart" in fights requiring gutchecks (against everyone not named Tony Margarito). And there are moments in the fights against Reid, Estrada and Suarez where Kerm didn't "wilt" either, and had ample opportunity to.

As for N'dou-- he's never been KOed. By anyone. (I don't think). Kerm goes the distance with him, doesn't get "frustrated" and fights a smart patient fight taking what's given him to get an easy "W". Granted, Martinez is a step up from NDou and a different style entirely-- but Martinez is no Margarito either. But it seems to me Kerm would have been damned by his detractors if he KO'ed N'Dou (only fights one way--landing the big bomb) and equally damned when doesn't get the KO (his power is overated-- that 85% KO rate is an illusion).