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[JT Rock]

Andre Berto earns stripes in overcoming Luis Collazo - ESPN


I appreciated Dan Rafael's scorecard and sentiments about the fight...

I'll say it again and seldom agree with Taeth, Andre landed the stiffer more effective punches, Luis threw roughly 130 more punches than Berto, but Andre landed about 40 more..Berto connected on 266 of 682 shots (39 percent) and Collazo landed 222 of 812 shots (27 percent), according to CompuBox statistics.


You could hear and almost feel Berto's punches were as Luis was cutsie on the inside hitting Berto like Joe Cal hits the heavy bag but that wasnt enough..

My opinion on Luis hasnt changed, he is a quality character and top 10 Welter but when he needed to find that 6th gear he didnt have it, and its that small margin in a talent stacked allstar division thats going to make a difference on who is the real McCoy and who is going to be on the outside looking in, and even though he made a true fan out of me Saturday, I still see him rubbing ice off the window and watching the top guys party inside were its warm..

The opinion of Dan Rafael doesnt make a fight result any more valid. Its just a guy with a beard and an opinion. It was an extremely close fight. There are any number of equally valid opinions out there who would disagree with Dan. And probably Taeth too for that matter. The punch count figures are not clear because both guys took rounds off and boxing is of course, a round by round thing.

A rematch would be the gents way to go, and Berto said as much in the post fight interview. It would be good to see it again 4 months later. It wasnt a brutal fight and it was crowd pleasing, no reason for it not to happen again and for Berto to try and prove he really is the better fighter.

Ok but the numbers dont lie Miles... Berto landed the telling more meaningful blows..

Whats wrong with Rafael, he is probably one of thee if not thee most respected writer in the biz today He had it a close fight no shame in that and stated why he felt that way

[Gandalf]

Andre Berto earns stripes in overcoming Luis Collazo - ESPN


I appreciated Dan Rafael's scorecard and sentiments about the fight...

I'll say it again and seldom agree with Taeth, Andre landed the stiffer more effective punches, Luis threw roughly 130 more punches than Berto, but Andre landed about 40 more..Berto connected on 266 of 682 shots (39 percent) and Collazo landed 222 of 812 shots (27 percent), according to CompuBox statistics.


You could hear and almost feel Berto's punches were as Luis was cutsie on the inside hitting Berto like Joe Cal hits the heavy bag but that wasnt enough..

My opinion on Luis hasnt changed, he is a quality character and top 10 Welter but when he needed to find that 6th gear he didnt have it, and its that small margin in a talent stacked allstar division thats going to make a difference on who is the real McCoy and who is going to be on the outside looking in, and even though he made a true fan out of me Saturday, I still see him rubbing ice off the window and watching the top guys party inside were its warm..

The opinion of Dan Rafael doesnt make a fight result any more valid. Its just a guy with a beard and an opinion. It was an extremely close fight. There are any number of equally valid opinions out there who would disagree with Dan. And probably Taeth too for that matter. The punch count figures are not clear because both guys took rounds off and boxing is of course, a round by round thing.

A rematch would be the gents way to go, and Berto said as much in the post fight interview. It would be good to see it again 4 months later. It wasnt a brutal fight and it was crowd pleasing, no reason for it not to happen again and for Berto to try and prove he really is the better fighter.

Ok but the numbers dont lie Miles... Berto landed the telling more meaningful blows..

Whats wrong with Rafael, he is probably one of thee if not thee most respected writer in the biz today He had it a close fight no shame in that and stated why he felt that way

Berto had some quality rounds no doubt. I wont disagree with you there.

I have nothing against Rafael as such here, he is merely a scribe with a beard, like I said. He had an opinion on a fight, as we all do...but one that many others disagree with. My personal issue with Rafael is that his views are a little too ethnocentric for my liking at times, but that isnt really an argument for here.

You dont think a rematch would be a fair outcome? I think it would be admirable if more fighters gave instant rematches to close fights.