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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

    In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

    Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

    Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.
    Just read an article that was on here that Hatton-Paulie only did like 200K in the UK.

    I don't think Pacquiao is being foolish, he deserves more money than Hatton deserves to make, he is fighting the bigger guy, he is the one with everything to lose, Hatton has nothing to lose.

    He would make a lot more money fighting Mayweather even if it was a 50/50 split, that fight would be huge in the states and probably go for nearly 2 million buys.

    Also IMO Pacquiao beats either Cotto or Margarito, he is way too fast, and not just of hand but of foot, I mean Zab Judah could have beaten Cotto with he would have consistently thrown that left hand and Pacquiao does throw it more, and he sets it up better. Margarito is a lumbering giant of a man, but he has terrible footwork and Pacquiao is way quicker of foot than Cotto and way lighter on his feet, everytime Margarito comes barreling in Pacquiao will easily maintain the distance, and he can do it all night, and if Cotto looked so fast against Marg, imagine how Pacquiao will look.
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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    Here's the latest news. Looks like Ricky told GBP he's done with Manny, and to get him either Oscar, Floyd, or the winner of Marquez/Diaz.


    Proposed Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao fight called off - ESPN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Here's the latest news. Looks like Ricky told GBP he's done with Manny, and to get him either Oscar, Floyd, or the winner of Marquez/Diaz.


    Proposed Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao fight called off - ESPN

    Dan speaks the truth with this part!!!!

    Arum and Schaefer quickly wrapped up negotiations and Hatton agreed to a 50-50 split of the revenue, even though he generates substantially more money in British television rights than Pacquiao could ever hope to generate in the poorer Philippines.

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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    One of the mods on Hatton site says he will not be fighting De La Hoya.Which iam glad Hatton doesnt want Mannys beaten fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Here's the latest news. Looks like Ricky told GBP he's done with Manny, and to get him either Oscar, Floyd, or the winner of Marquez/Diaz.


    Proposed Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao fight called off - ESPN
    lol

    Even Pac's own promoter thinks he possibly bottled it
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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Here's the latest news. Looks like Ricky told GBP he's done with Manny, and to get him either Oscar, Floyd, or the winner of Marquez/Diaz.


    Proposed Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao fight called off - ESPN
    lol

    Even Pac's own promoter thinks he possibly bottled it

    Man Pacman is a diva, this guy has got to be the worst person to do business with in boxing! worse then Roy jones jr in his prime.

    Even Floyd mayweather jr is not as hard to do business with then pacquiao, floyd jr accepted a 70 30 against oscar.

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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    Bob Arum on Paquiao's decision:

    "It's really as close to bizarre as anything I have ever been involved in. Considering what the next alternative is for Manny, this is bizarre."

    "I don't know what really happened here but there are two things," One, Manny didn't really want the fight, which I doubt. Secondly, we all know Manny is a gambler, a poker player. He probably figured if he was strong to the end, they would fold and they didn't."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

    In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

    Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

    Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.
    Just read an article that was on here that Hatton-Paulie only did like 200K in the UK.
    Where? Post the link please Taeth
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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

    In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

    Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

    Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.
    Just read an article that was on here that Hatton-Paulie only did like 200K in the UK.

    I don't think Pacquiao is being foolish, he deserves more money than Hatton deserves to make, he is fighting the bigger guy, he is the one with everything to lose, Hatton has nothing to lose.

    He would make a lot more money fighting Mayweather even if it was a 50/50 split, that fight would be huge in the states and probably go for nearly 2 million buys.

    Also IMO Pacquiao beats either Cotto or Margarito, he is way too fast, and not just of hand but of foot, I mean Zab Judah could have beaten Cotto with he would have consistently thrown that left hand and Pacquiao does throw it more, and he sets it up better. Margarito is a lumbering giant of a man, but he has terrible footwork and Pacquiao is way quicker of foot than Cotto and way lighter on his feet, everytime Margarito comes barreling in Pacquiao will easily maintain the distance, and he can do it all night, and if Cotto looked so fast against Marg, imagine how Pacquiao will look.
    Both of those guys just have to hit him clean once to slow him down, and its all over..

    Cotto is deceptive with his handspeed, and would crush Pac.. its a matter of when not how they will catch him

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    I gotta say, if Jmm goes onto beat Diaz and then Hatton, he would be the new PFP#1 IMO

    Juan is all about fighting the toughest competition and not bitching out over a few percent

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    Oh man this is so disappointing, as a Hatton fan I don't want to see any of the other fights now rumoured. ODLH and JMM just don't appeal as Pac has already beaten them. And I just don't see him beating PBF in a rematch.

    Why Pac has backed out is beyond me, he stands to make the biggest purse of his career in a Superfight!! Surely he's not scared, no way with his resume.

    On another note, Taeth are you insane? You normally speak sense but your quote below is just plain crazy. Cotto and Margarito both do to Pac what everybody thought ODLH would do, Knock him the f*** out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Also IMO Pacquiao beats either Cotto or Margarito, he is way too fast, and not just of hand but of foot, I mean Zab Judah could have beaten Cotto with he would have consistently thrown that left hand and Pacquiao does throw it more, and he sets it up better. Margarito is a lumbering giant of a man, but he has terrible footwork and Pacquiao is way quicker of foot than Cotto and way lighter on his feet, everytime Margarito comes barreling in Pacquiao will easily maintain the distance, and he can do it all night, and if Cotto looked so fast against Marg, imagine how Pacquiao will look.
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    Default Re: Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

    In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

    Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

    Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.
    Just read an article that was on here that Hatton-Paulie only did like 200K in the UK.

    I don't think Pacquiao is being foolish, he deserves more money than Hatton deserves to make, he is fighting the bigger guy, he is the one with everything to lose, Hatton has nothing to lose.

    He would make a lot more money fighting Mayweather even if it was a 50/50 split, that fight would be huge in the states and probably go for nearly 2 million buys.

    Also IMO Pacquiao beats either Cotto or Margarito, he is way too fast, and not just of hand but of foot, I mean Zab Judah could have beaten Cotto with he would have consistently thrown that left hand and Pacquiao does throw it more, and he sets it up better. Margarito is a lumbering giant of a man, but he has terrible footwork and Pacquiao is way quicker of foot than Cotto and way lighter on his feet, everytime Margarito comes barreling in Pacquiao will easily maintain the distance, and he can do it all night, and if Cotto looked so fast against Marg, imagine how Pacquiao will look.
    You read an article or a post? I remember a post proposing a similar number, but I'm pretty sure it was someone who was making an argument that Hatton wasn't a draw. Like I said my cousin was working there freelance on the night, and let's say that it was under there lowest estimate, there is no way that they could have misjudged it that badly on the night, so let's say a minimum of 400,000 buys assuming the Sky people fucked up badly. Anyway the figures I heard are still not spectacular when you take into account that nearly 1.5 million people in the UK bought the PBF-Hatton PPV.

    Yeah a Pacquiao-PBF fight would be huge, I've never said it wouldn't BUT there is no way Al Haymon & the rest of Floyd's people would take anything less than 50-50 & they might not even do that. Plus Hatton-Pacquiao would at the least do over a million sales in the UK alone. Pacquiao would be cut in on this thanks to how Arum did the deal.

    Cannot see Manny beatin Margarito, at some point he would probably try to trade with him & that would be it. He would have to fight a boring fight in order to beat Margarito because there is NO WAY he would knock him out.

    There is a reason Arum is pushing for this fight (especially considerin he promotes Cotto & Margarito) because it's the most lucrative one.

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